James Price, Death Valley Magazine and Asians Who Can Drive

 

Apparently this Asian can drive. He can shoot too. Ask anyone who attended his Mobile Scout course (see more on that in a future issue of RECOIL). Note: don’t get butt hurt about the “Asian can drive” thing. We make fun of ourselves and all our friends, so we reserve the right to make fun of everybody else. Especially James, cuz he’s a good sumbitch with great taste in women and action figure friends. Now read Merrill’s interview with him.

James Price, Death Valley Magazine and Pipe Hitters who Help

A while back I had a conversation with James Price, of Death Valley Magazine fame. One of his side projects, when he isn’t shuffling around warzones (like a more debonair  Bob Denard), is DVM HAST (Humanitarian Aid & Security Team, formerly DVM DART). As the name suggests, it’s all about helping people. Though DVM HAST just completed their second mission in Kurdistan, this conversation took place right after James came back from his first trip.

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James Price [left], somewhere unsafe
James and I got to spend a few minutes talking about it. After several minutes cajoling about incredibad gear we’ve both been subjected to, we got down to the serious business of DVM HAST.

Dave Merrill [DM]: Tell me how it started, the whole thing.

James Price [JP]: I’ve worked with aid groups before in the past, just as a volunteer mostly in Indonesia. I decided that once I stopped contracting I could take my unique skills and apply them. Working in the civilian sector as a contractor, you learn to work without a big support system and how to operate independently. I thought that would be good for aid groups so I formed HAST. We responded to a typhoon in the Philippines last year. We kinda used a Special Forces technique of sending in a small team, sourcing locally, utilizing local nationals, and go in and complete the mission without having to deal with an upper command structure. An issue I ran into when I volunteered with other groups, they usually had people stateside trying to tell them every single thing they had to do without complete information. You know—REMF’s. So we formed it so a team could go in, be autonomous, and sourced locally. No matter how bad a disaster is if you have money you can get the supplies that you need for distribution. At least in my experience, the key to any mission success is working with local nationals. They have the local knowledge and connections and all that. So I combined all those different aspects into one for that first DVM HAST pilot mission in the Philippines. It was a very successful mission and we did a lot of good for a relatively small amount of money.

Of course, stuff with ISIS pops up going in and around Irbil. I lived in Irbil for two years. I ran missions as a security contractor and we used Irbil as our base of operations for all around Iraq. I knew the area, had connections there.

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DM: And you’re invested in the people there too.

JP: Absolutely. I really like the Kurds. They didn’t really have that xenophobic attitude towards other people or other religions. They’ve been kicked around by Saddam so they’re really not about letting other people get kicked around either. So they were going out helping people of other religions.

 That’s something that will not happen anywhere else in the Muslim world.

One of my buddies is a lieutenant in the Peshmerga and he told me, ‘Hey, I’m glad your team got to see this, to show what a real Muslim will do. Help people regardless of their religion.’ It’s not about what religion someone is to them, it’s about the people. It’s a bad situation all around [with ISIS] and I figured, I know the area, I know the people and let’s do something.

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We partnered up with La Cima World Missions. They have a lot of fundraising experience that I don’t have so that helped out tremendously. I recruited guys, many of which you met before. We have David Hale, an ER nurse in Chicago who has also done aid missions before. A couple of other guys that I know and have trained also. I put together a great team. La Cima did the fundraising and put together around $42,000 for us. I went in first as an advanced party, hooked up with my local contacts, sourced the equipment we need, food, water, medical supplies, clothing, thing like that we needed. So when the team got off the plane they literally could get right to work.

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DM: You were there for ten days, right?

JP: The team was there for ten days. I was there for nineteen days. Five days before and four days after. Setup things and then to wrap everything up.

DM: Overall, what was the highlight of your mission?

JP: Just being able to help people. Using the money wisely. We accomplished a ton. The biggest highlight was through a friend of mine I was connected to a children’s hospital. Through a partnership with them, we were able to provide medical care and pediatric physicians. David Hale and myself, along with others in the team, provided mobile pediatric hospitals. We could go and set up almost instantly inside a school or a camp, and in one case a parking garage. The team would go in and put it all up. Hale would perform a triage on all of the sick children. He put them into categories of immediate need and basic need. The doctors would come in and be able to provide aid. The biggest issue is that before, some doctors from the hospitals would go to the camps independently but they didn’t have money for medication or anything other than basic treatment. What we were able to do was provide that medicine. That was definitely what I’m most proud of. We were able to set up five different camps in ten days.

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DM: What was your largest security concern?

JP: Part of my advance work was doing security surveys. Our biggest concern was actually not ISIS coming in. They got within 20 miles of the city but if ISIS were to take over the town we’d have enough advance noticed to get out of there. The largest threat was us being targeted by terrorists because we are American. There are other fringe groups there but they aren’t that active. They could take advantage of the situation.

DM: Because you’re obviously American or at least foreign.

JP: We’re obviously foreign, wearing American flags all over. I wanted to show people all over the world that America, at least the people, wanted to help, that we actually do care. VBIEDs and bomb vests, stuff like that was a concern. We had two guys primarily doing security. They were instructed in spotting terrorists that were very experienced. We had local nationals assisting them to address any local warning signs.

The second concern is that we were in a major third world city. Simple things you worry about in any city like that. Getting mugged or robbed. Everyone knows that all the aid teams were carrying large amounts of cash. All of our accommodations were vetted. The criminal element is always there.

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DM: So what makes DVM HAST different?

JP: We’ve always said, ‘We’re not your grandmother’s aid organization’. The main thing we specialize in is gong into places where other aid organizations won’t go because they consider it too dangerous. US Aid was gone, they left their building. The idea behind HAST is that we go in where no one else will go in. Pick a small area and give them aid until larger organizations can come in with more ass and supplies. We’re the SWAT team of aid groups. Bombard the area with aid. We’re the guys who run on the beachhead screaming, with food and medical supplies.

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DM: When are you heading back?

JP: We’re going back in December. We won’t publish any specific dates or photos until the team has already left, for obvious reasons. The fundraising for that is starting shortly. We saw a lot of dental issues and we’re bringing in a dental medical team from La Cima. Any medical issue you have is a thousand times worse in a refugee camp. Sure, toothpaste costs maybe $.25 but when you have nothing left, you can’t afford it. So we’re going to bring in a dental team, all state of the art equipment, in a mobile format.

One thing many don’t know is that it gets cold in Kurdistan. Cold enough that snow stays on the ground. The other big aid groups will end up bringing these kerosene heaters, which is the most common. They are fire traps. They’ve always had fires, whole families have been killed. They’re going to get the heaters but they aren’t thinking about fire extinguishers. We’re going to get them and teach them how to use them. Set up fire captains and give them training. We’re always trying to think outside the box and think of things that other aid organizations don’t.

DM: How can people contribute to DVM HAST?

JP: You can go to Deathvalleymag.com/dart/ and donate there. A lot of companies in the firearms industry have been helping out too. US Palm, Combat SWAG, Bud’s Gun Shop all donated. Jim Fuller [of Rifle Dynamics] even auctioned off a rifle for the mission. It’s all been great and every bit helps.

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For the mission report and photo essay from this first trip, visit this page here. Well over 100 photos on the site so if you’re on a 2400 baud modem, fair warning.

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Emeritus Dave Merrill wrote for Breach-Bang-Clear from late 2013 until early 2017, including a year as its Managing Editor. He departed our ranks in May of 2017 to accept a well-deserved position as social media manager for RECOIL Magazine. He is a combat veteran of the Marine Corps who describes himself as a "...former urban warfare and foreign weapons instructor for Coalition fighting men." Merrill's articles are well worth the time it takes to read them - there's a lot of knowledge tucked away in that skull.


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141 thoughts on “James Price, Death Valley Magazine and Asians Who Can Drive

  • January 19, 2015 at 7:29 am
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    James Price,

    I hope that you have enjoyed this little calm in the anonymous accusation shit show here. It has granted us the opportunity to sit back and watch how you react, and also how your DVM “team room” and fan boys react.

    I hope that you have learned something from this as well. I hope that you have learned how the community will react, every time we see your ugly mug, even TRY to enjoy an unearned and undeserved, unadulterated moment in the lime light.

    You wont be having any more of those.

    And don’t get to thinking that this might be that kind of, “any publicity is good publicity” bullshit, either. We have eyes, everywhere, and we are watching. Although the response to this article was little more than a free for all razing, of a target of opportunity, we’ve got some serious ducks in a row now, all made possible by you, your “team room”, your people and your former people.

    Your own reaction to our disorganized circus of anonymous accusations has given us what we need, to make it impossible for you to ever show your face in a major venue, that is representative of our community.

    For a guy claiming/representing himself as a seasoned professional, you are downright bad at that whole opsec/persec thing. I guess it is just impossible to maintain opsec/persec, when you are forced into making elaborate excuses, for “unfounded” accusations.

    Wait a minute, why does anyone need to answer to unfounded accusations???

    Well, maybe because they are not so unfounded…

    To the readers, wondering what to make of all this, I will leave you with but one little snippet, and I want you to think about this, long and hard. Particularly if you are in any way shape or form associated or affiliated with the “DVM Team”. As follows is a quote, from James Price himself.

    “(from the looks of things here) about 15 people hate my guts when I thought it was in the hundreds means I am doing better than I thought in the big picture.”

    Now I want you to ask yourself. Was that, “thought it was in the hundreds” part, some kind of figure of speech? was it a shot in the dark? or was it perhaps based upon some information that James Price has?

    I mean, who do you know, who presumes to have hundreds of people, who “hate their guts”?

    Surely, one would have to be a politician, or an internet scam artist to presume such a thing. I know plenty of people who are drunk more than “43% of the time” that don’t nearly have, nor presume to have hundreds of people hating them.

    The only person who would presume such a thing, is someone who does. Think about it.

    In closing, if you have read this article, as well as all of the ranting and ravings of these mean bastards and mad men, only to realize that you yourself had become a nonchalant member of the DVM “Team Room”, at one point or another, or if you happen to search for the DVM “Team Room”, on Facebook and realize that you have a friend or family member, who is a member of the DVM “Team Room”, perhaps you should warn them off. Use your best judgment, of course.

    And to James Price, you enjoy the silence now, and with that silence, you can make like a rabbit, and run.

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  • January 13, 2015 at 6:30 am
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    ‘Just A Guy’ is bitching about people bitching, but doesn’t even have a dog in the fight? How’s that for some next level ‘look at me’ shit?

    Go home, the adults are talking here.

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  • January 8, 2015 at 3:10 pm
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    You might not understand this but you are in fact taking part in the same internet drama. As Spartan or Viking as we all intend to live the world has changed since then the medium of communication has changed. If someone is taking advantage of young Vikings (im not claiming one way or the other about Price)then im all for someone helping them out. I could give two shits if a guy gets free dennys or rides the rides at knots but this is different all together if someone is giving bad Viking training or taking people on bogus viking raids or taking young Vikings gold there’s no harm in somebody calling them on it maybe your time would be better served sharpening your axe

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  • January 8, 2015 at 1:12 pm
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    “No…because they were too busy being fuckin Vikings”

    Hahahaha you gotta be shitting me! So what generation do you come from “Just A Guy”?

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  • January 8, 2015 at 7:06 am
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    Why aren’t my comments be posted??

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  • January 8, 2015 at 1:02 am
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    I just come from a generation of men that never concerned ourselves whether or not anyone else on the planet knows it or not.

    Because that’s the type of shit women do.

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  • January 8, 2015 at 12:51 am
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    Whatever it takes to sleep at night echo.

    Let me remind you that your generation of warrior is not the first, and it damn sure won’t be the last.

    Did vikings give two fucks if there were frauds pretending to be vikings?

    No…because they were too busy being fucking vikings.

    Having pride in who you are and what you do, is a good trait.

    However trying to justify to me that somehow, in some way, some punk playing make believe “steals valor” from actual vets, you are 100% correct that you and anyone else who gets butthurt about “stolen valor” is still stuck in high school.

    If a fake gets you that upset about recognition, then you are just as concerned with recognition as the fake is.

    Normandy wasn’t stormed so th Po se boys could come home and reveal the phonies.

    It had to be done so they did it.

    Real heroes don’t give a fuck who knows the difference between authentic and fake…because real valor can’t be quantified woth medals and patches.

    And they’re too busy doing hero stuff.

    Really meditate on that one for a bit before ypu try to justify spending any amount of time proving “you’re the real deal, and someone else isn’t.

    Because I’m sure no matter what your resume is, there could have been a Marine at Guadalcanal, or someone who faught in the Scottish Wars of Independence, or possibly one of the Mongol Armies who may have considered your type a joke.

    You are not the first man to ever fight and you won’t be the last.

    There have been enough posts about the dangers of doing business with this guy.

    If you’re the “real deal” then handle your business.

    Unless of course your business is complete fuckery about internet gossip, in which case…carry on soldier.

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    • January 7, 2015 at 7:20 am
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      Spencer – does your response confirm James’ comments regarding your experiences with him, and that you are eager to do another project with him?

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  • January 7, 2015 at 12:43 am
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    Now that all the “Buyer Beware” shit is out of the way…

    I’ve read every single post in this thread.

    It reads like a high school girls locker room soap opera.

    How about all parties involved, act like grown ass men and go on about your business.

    Surely some…if not most of you have families, jobs, even hobbies where your time can be better spent doing actual productive things improving the world we live in or your own lives.

    I have absolutely zero investment in either side, but I will tell you this much…

    If my son ever participated in such a limp wristed crusade of “I’m right, you’re wrong” over one human being that ultimately has zero control over how you choose to live your life, I’d give him a proper attitude adjustment real quick.

    There is more estrogen in this thread than the entire cast of “The View”

    I’ll leave you girls to your gossip fest.

    I gotta go do something with some tools or something sharp to wash the taste of teen drama out of my eyes/mind.

    Good day ladies.

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    • January 7, 2015 at 4:26 am
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      I know right? The concepts of policing our own, honor & looking after the FNGs is SO high school.

      I mean who cares if Cory Jackson is a lying piece of shit who went AWOL- he has a hot chick in his videos and a cool story to go with them. It would have been so much better if people didn’t act like ladies and point out he was a fraud lying about his background.

      Same goes for guys walking around in ate the fuck up uniforms getting discounts and free shit that is normally reserved for actual Veterans. Calling them out is just a gossip fest right?

      Nice that you’d teach your son that standing by and allowing people to claim accomplishments and experience that they don’t have is the correct course of action to take rather than standing up for the truth. I believe I’ll take a different path with my son.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 8:05 pm
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    David, I understand the OPSEC issue and said ass-clown might have a tort action so no harm no foul. I have never met the guy, but he screwed over Tom Moore Tomahawk a respected friend and fellow trigger puller. That’s all I need to know. Bottom line, the guy is toxic, I bet one day he gets himself or someone else killed or becomes the next ISIS video of the week. I think he has been outed, if someone wants to give home money, or attend a class with him, they have been put on notice. I hope BBC has now seen the guy for what he is, and will agree he is more toxic than helpful to our community. To all who cares caveat em pour.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 1:13 pm
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    My last post for your entertainment. Does anyone know his real name and an address? Last know or otherwise. I heard it was James Price at or near Richmond Virginia. If you contracted with said ass-clown, do you have a roster or employment application. Hit me or Tomahawk up with G2 enough is enough, time to get judgements and you can’t file if you don’t have a place to serve. If your owed money, file! Get a default judgement entered into three credit reporting agencies, that will effectively insure he can never work or contract for DoS again. Let’s get him in court somewhere and in some states fraud (Promise of delivery) through the Internet is a criminal charge. Feds won’t touch it… Unless it meets threshold amounts or is hosted OCONUS. Document your dealings and file. Even if you file in your own state, the filing fees are less that $100 in most jurisdictions. He won’t show, can’t defend, even if it for a small amount like the cost of “membership” or “money owed for services rendered” or theft of intellectual property, get a judgement, get it posted so it can be found by Sector Seven when they do a background / credit check. Nothing in this post should be considered legal advice, it is educational in nature, nothing should be considered a legal opinion or decision, your individule circumstances may very by individule states. Good Luck!

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    • January 6, 2015 at 3:12 pm
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      Reposted for approval

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      • January 6, 2015 at 4:58 pm
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        Tom, I have that info including his #, but regardless of how I feel about this guy, I’m not sharing the info with someone I don’t know. Or in a public venue.

        That was not the point of bringing this all up. However I do agree that anyone that lost money to him should report it. It’s time, but let’s be honest, he never had/has a chance of a ‘real’ sponsored gig out in the world. Thets a lot of the point. Anyone with a gullible backer can walk in to a safe zone in a screwed up LOC and hand out rice (look at his mission pics, anyone that’s done real work overseas knows the type of areas he’s pretending to operate in). It’s smoke & mirrors and gullible backers with more gullible “operators”.

        Note for the future… If you’re going into a Hot Zone and the people around you are white dudes wearing Birkenstocks… You’re not where you think you are. You’re in the Round-Eye Westerner hippy peace corps zone.

        These ”missions’ and past experiences only hold up to people that have spent their life calm and cozy and shrouded by ignorance.

        But like they say.. ignorance is bliss.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 12:50 pm
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    Why did you choose to not post my last comments?

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    • January 6, 2015 at 1:06 pm
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      TomK18C – we’ve approved every comment that has appeared in queue except for a couple that offering to give us a good deal on perfume and designer jeans – we’ve also checked the spam filter. If you typed something that hasn’t shown up on this page it must not have loaded or something – it has not appeared on the “back end.” (Breach Bang Clear staff)

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      • January 6, 2015 at 1:18 pm
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        Well the right perfume might get the angry-goon smell out of the room. If you find it, let me know. My wife has been putting up with it for over a decade.

        Only thing I know if that gets rid of a whole lot of shit is a can go diesel and a stir stick. But the boys can still tell where you were from the aroma.

        In the end, I’m happy with this discussion. Anyone that gives DVM or “James Price” a nickel going forward deserves to have it taken.

        ‘Due diligence’. After many years we’ve all done ours and I hope this remains open to the public for future acquaintances of DVM to mull over before ponying up any cash.

        Most of all, I hope that media sources such as yourself and RECOIL weigh the evidence towards giving this scammer a larger audience to poach out of in the future.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 12:31 pm
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    So…”JP” finally responded with a novel……and (surprise, surprise) he only “explained” topics that would be easy to deflect away from….that in itself is EXTREMELY telling. I am going to assume that I am not the only one who sees through his “I’m a victim like you guys” BS, and that people start stepping away from this clown. What an embarrassment

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  • January 6, 2015 at 11:59 am
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    Typical james p. trying to throw off the hounds by talking himself up and attempting to make others look bad.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 11:42 am
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    James, how sick do you have to be to think we would believe this?

    You are in your own little world man.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 11:26 am
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    Didn’t think James would be able to shove that much BS into one post,

    I guess one thing is right, the reader can believe what they want, and make their own call re this guy and his legitimacy,

    Fact is that he’s been called out for the world to see. You can write it off to a shitload of ‘one off’s” or see it as it is – a long pattern of preying off our community. There’s a point at which you screw so many people along the way that it becomes harder and harder to explain away,

    So either everyone that’s spoken here is full of shit, or just one guy is. Thats a call for the reader to make. But rest assured that the guys he’s preyed off of in the past have been watching, and will continue to watch. You’re on a short leash James.

    A very short leash.

    Out.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 10:53 am
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    James latest post in the DVM group. Posting for those not currently a member or have been previously banned.

    “Honestly I feel like I do not have to answer to internet trolls on the comments there (but I will make that one last post answering what has been brought up)

    But I 100% feel like the guys in the DVM Team room deserve a response for you pimps always supporting DVM so I will post it here also”

    I don’t know about you guys but I only see a handful of posts here that could qualify as trolling. The majority (Tom, David, Doc etc) are legitimate gripes.

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    • January 6, 2015 at 12:22 pm
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      Ive never read more excuses from a pissant private in my entire, and ongoing, career as a NCO. I narrowly escaped the GKKC fleecing and have watched James Price from a distance with amusement ever since. Every so often he cimes up with a new scam. One month it’s body armor, the next is let’s hear all your ideas for developing a training curriculum so I can steal them. He is a farce, who has stolen from good men, who gave away information that cost gis company millions in lost revenue over a piece of haj tail. Unethical and amoral are the kindest words I have for this thieving wannabe masquerading asan operator. Go scan some more id cards at the ECP. Or go sit on a truck in Kurdistan during the time when the most dangerous thing a convoy faced was a drunk driver and call yourself a trigger puller. You’re delusional.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 10:40 am
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    but don’t challenge me at typing. I use my voice text feature and I sound like a retard.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 10:35 am
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    Kiss should be kits. Lol

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  • January 6, 2015 at 10:33 am
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    I am a retired deputy sheriff k9 handler and firearms instructor with eight years of prior military service and now currently work as a bodyguard in the United States. I’m using my real name and I have given my actual email address that I have used for the last 14 years. My only experience with James g., James Gray, James price has been when myself and approximately a hundred other people purchased novelty kiss from him. It was supposed to be kind of a club membership with some bogus credentials and a website. There were a few other things too also each of us were to get our own member number which I believe mine was 43 but I can’t really recall for sure. Anyway, after taking our money, James disappeared off the face of the earth for a while. The only thing that really came to fruition was the website. James continued to string us along on the other items for several months and then he flat out disappeared completely. He left an alter ego in charge basically to take the blame. This alter ego was actually James price. Yes I know it is a weird deal but he is a weird little dude. Anyway most of us had the money to piss away but it became more of a pride issue I think. We use that website to get together and launched our own Facebook page where we all gathered together in hatred of the same dude who had screwed us all out of about 60 or 80 dollars and a few of us had paid for some sort of gold key memberships or something and I don’t know how much that was but I think was another hundred bones. Anyway we harassed him on DVM for long enough that eventually some of us were refunded our original payment. I was one of the lucky ones but the reason there are so many people speaking out against him is that many of us were taken advantage of. I think James believed us all to be want to be keyboard warriors who wouldn’t come after him. The trouble is some of us were there because we had been trigger pullers or we’re currently behind the trigger somewhere and we were just bored 12 hours out of the day. However, having access to police records and information is nice sometimes. It means you can locate people and find her actual identity if you need to. I’m not saying I did this but I’m saying it can happen. So be careful who you screw over even if it is on the Internet. Now since then I have watched him lunch once cam after another grooming and taking advantage of young dudes who didn’t have the balls to join the military but wanted a week or two in a danger zone that they can tell their friends about and a certificate to hang on the wall. This is not only reckless, it is dangerous. James would take people with no experience behind the trigger and try to train them to be operators. He would give them a certificate that had no DoD or DO backingand lead them to believe that somehow they would obtain employment with that. Good luck getting a job with one of his certifications. Now, if James, one of his alter egos or one of his lady fanboys wants defend him against any of this you know how to find me. Also, if you ever see me on a practice range or training facility, feel free to challenge me at anything from fighting, shooting or banging your old lady.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 10:10 am
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    Ok folks, some questions have been asked about me here and this is my response. After this I am out of the conversation as there is nothing more I can say to anonymous accusations (given, I saw one guy using his real name).

    -RE the last company I worked for in Iraq posting here:

    I generally have a standing rule not to publicly talk about former employers or co-workers, especially if I left with bad blood between us (cuz that just ends up with allot of “he said, she said” between people that may dislike each other and goes nowhere).

    I am going more or less stick with that here with the exception of saying that I never gave away company secrets or stole anything – how can I prove that, can’t, so it’s “he said, she said” again between two groups of people who hate each other’s guts. The other people who are posting the same things about me are his employees, so that is up to you all to decide if what they are saying has bias.

    P.S. I have no business interests in the Kurdistan region at all.

    Also my writing “my trucks” or “my team” is me meaning to say “I own this company” is just semantics.

    To the folks reading this – hey, I made enemy’s on a job and now they have their chance to talk shit. Honestly I can be hard to get along with at times so no surprise. Some of you can relate to this, some not. But considering this is coming from only one gig out of 10+ contractors I worked for over a decade of my career I’ll leave you to judge the validly of the claims.

    In this situation the last thing I have to say is take whatever either of us says with a grain of salt if you have to, cuz this situation is basically two people who hate each other like you would not believe just yelling at each other.

    -RE the two knife makers I did projects with in the past:

    For the first knife maker we did have a disagreement but we cleared that up. The last time I talked to him he wanted to do another project together when we both had the time. You must have talked to him when we were in disagreement but we are cool now and I consider him to be the most innovative knife maker in the business

    For the second knife maker, he approached me to see if I wanted to try out one of his bad ass blades in Iraq, I said “fuck yeah” and it turned out to be a great blade. Later I approached him about an idea I had based on the blade he gave me. We worked on the design and I (this is where I messed up a bit) said “sweet, I’ll try and pre-sell 50 of them, let me send you a deposit to lock it down”. He read that as “I am ordering 50” and that is totally on me, I should have been more clear.

    Anyway I sent him the deposit, he bought the materials for all 50 of the blades and we put the pre-order up. Then the we sold about 11 on the first run I believe, he made them (they were way sweet), we paid him, and we slowly shipped them out as they came in (we did misplace a few orders that we later filled).

    When I saw that knife maker at a knife convention later (no accident, I talked to him a week before and he invited me to meet up if I was there), he did mention the extra materials and I said he should keep the deposit as an ‘whoops, our bad’ fee and we would pay him for any more work as we go. He agreed and we ordered about 5 or 6 more blades from him (and paid him). I have spoken to him many times since then and he never mentioned anything about have tons of material left over laying around his shop, I am guessing considering he is a knife maker he made knives with it.

    The last time I talked to him “just a what’s cracking?” convo he was real friendly and didn’t seem to be pissed or anything.

    -RE Stolen Valor:

    You will not find anywhere on the Internet or any person where I have said I was former military.

    In fact it is quite the opposite, I have somewhat made a career out of saying “I am a contractor and NOT former military”, an anomaly in the contracting world – anyone who has read the DVM site has seen numerous articles going back years where I have said that.

    Here is one article I wrote just about that subject – http://www.deathvalleymag.com/2010/04/30/civilian-contractors-do-non-ex-military-guys-have-a-place-in-the-security-contracting-industry/

    Saying I have ever represented myself as former military is an outright lie and I challenge anyone to prove that I ever had.

    -RE I scammed people:

    (Long story here, get some popcorn folks) This is about a membership club that we had a number of years back. It was called the Knife Knucks and Gun Club, the membership was between 70 and 95 bucks I think.

    This was an idea from a former business partner and myself as the first attempt to monetize the site to recoup day to day costs. So we came up with a membership plan where I would promote it and he would manage and print and mail the member swag.

    So I put the word out and built the member site, we gave away about half of the memberships for free to industry friends and my buddy’s and sold the other half.

    This is where shit went south.

    Right after all the member slots were filled I ended up getting mad busy at work where the company I was doing convoy security for in Iraq got a huge contract and I went on a 38 day long convoy mission (then one day off) and then right out for another month.

    (Note, I did not have Iraqi mobile internet at that time, I was still using a Nokia brick phone – I know not having mobile internet and a smartphone only like four years ago sounds like BS but remember I was in Iraq not Florida)

    While I was out on these convoys my former partner basically disappeared and only mailed out a handful of the member swag. When I got done with the work surge a month in a half later I got online and my laptop blew up with all the (rightfully so I point out) people who were pissed off.

    I tried for weeks to contact my former partner and finally he got back to me with all sorts of strange excuses like “the mail truck ran into a fire hydrant and all the packages I sent were distorted – WTF?). Then he sent me a message saying he had to go to the Philippines on a family emergency and he can’t help with the Member Club (he had all the names and addys, certificate templates and ID card printer) and he will not be online for a long time.

    For the next few months I kept trying to contact him, and on the rare occasions I did get him to answer he just kept saying “can’t do it, still in the Philippines” until eventually he just stopped responding.

    This is where I dropped the ball.

    While all this was going on (I was still going out for weeks at a time on convoys in Iraq) for months (almost two months had already passed) I was not updating the member group about what was happening.

    Honestly I was embarrassed that some smuck had put one over on me so I didn’t want to say what happened cuz I didn’t want to look like a dummy (turns out I was a big dummy on that call).

    By the time I “realized” (denial is not just a river in Egypt it turns out) there was nothing I could do to salvage the club and people were rightfully pissed as fuck (I would have been). I offered refunds to everyone and all but about 3 or 4 from what I could tell ended up getting refunds, some right away, some a long time later after I made more posts every year asking anyone who didn’t get a refund to contact me. I added in 5 bucks for the PayPal charge on all refunds also.

    One guy refused to to give me his PayPal cuz he was angry at me, another one told me to fuck off and never responded to my emails again and one guy who was a contractor medic didn’t get it cuz I lost his contact info (again my fault). For the other couple of people here that said they did not get a refund the offer is still open forever if they want the refund. Ycan email me here if you did not get a refund: james.price.dvm(at)gmail.com

    Out of all of the things being said this is the only one that I will 100% concede to I am the one who fucked up here. But I did my best to fix it and (now) give you guys a way late explanation. Again, that’s my bad gents. I take 100% responsibility for it here publicly. I should have liked my partners wiser and that my mistake.

    But it’s was not a scam, just mad shitty customer service on my part.

    Also “Jay Greyman” (my former partner) was a real person also using a pen name cuz he is a police officer – I sent his real mane to the folks here at BBC along with other info showing I had to track him down to get him to return a bunch of DVM stuff. I will not publicly post his name again cuz I consider my busyness with him over.

    -RE My name is fake:

    When I first started writing online I used the name “James Grey” – why? Well as we have seen here there is nothing a Contractor hates more than another Contractor, ESPECIALLY if he is doing good for himself. It is a strange part of this business that I have never fully understood but accept as the nature of the beast.

    Also the DOD required all blogs to be registered for review, no way was I was going to do that cuz it would prevent me from writing about my experiences without having to censor myself. The last reason is cuz many contracting company’s frown on their current or potential employees having a blog. You can’t have the worker bees having a voice can ya?

    When I stopped working for other company’s and did gigs on my own and was more public with DVM I started using my real name James Price. I sent a copy of my passport to BBC to conform that.

    I do not know where the James “Park” thing comes from, I guess it’s cuz I am Korean or something. I suppose it’s better than “James Fung Won Bing Bong Dong” but not quite as funny.

    -RE I was never a contractor:

    Just the fact there are people right here from one of my past contracting jobs and another saying he worked on the same gig I was on both talking about me on a contracting job dismisses that. But for the record I started out on a gig in Qatar for a couple of years and then worked in Iraq as a contractor and also did a few contract gigs in Southeast Asia. Been doing this for well over a decade, worked with hundreds of guys on a ton of gigs, not really a debate about that here.

    -RE The Humanitarian Aid Mission:

    The mission was faked – As I said before unless we had access to the studio in Burbank where NASA faked the moon landing then that is just crazy talk. We have posted hundreds of pictures of our past missions (posting 300 more of the last one soon). That is the very reason for posting those pictures, not to brag but proof to our donors what we accomplished.

    James spent all the money on crack (or whatever people here said, I didn’t read all the comments on this) – our partner on this is a 501(c)(3), by law we have to account for every penny and have receipts. That combined with the team members being there every time we spent money on aid supply’s and almost ten thousand other witnesses who received our aid is proof in the pudding.

    We do not even use donations on the individual team members expenses, all volunteers pay for their own plane tickets, housing, meals and gear. Every person who went on these missions including myself spent between 6 and 9k out of their own pockets to help the people displaced by ISIS combined with most of them taking unpaid leave from work or shutting down their business for two weeks.

    I said “you have to take one of my classes to go on a mission”- when I started getting hundreds of messages and emails from good intentioned people who wanted to go on our Aid Missions I started off saying “we are good with people” or I would have to explain why volunteers had to pay their own expenses cuz we are a small NGO so we do not pay salaries or have a big mission budget to buy plane tickets and such.

    Those answers would end up with 38 more messages with people sending me their resumes or trying to convince me they were good folks. And from what I could tell with a few exceptions they all were just people who wanted to help.

    When the mission was less than a week away and we could not have vetted people even if we wanted to I was saying “we have no way of pre-vetting people who want to volunteer to go on an Aid Mission so we are only taking former students”. That pretty much answered all questions people had and saved us time answering a bunch of questions,

    It was also was a better answer than: “why would I bring someone I don’t know on an Aid Mission to an active war zone?”

    A few of the people who went on the mission were former students that asked to go and did well in the classes and had personalities that I knew would get along with everyone and I was happy to have them along. In fact they did so well we are probably going to make it a requirement that we have to know you from either a class or other face to face situation if someone wants to go on an Aid Mission with us. I do not think that is unreasonable at all.

    Everyone else who went were either people I knew personally or were referred to me by people I trusted.

    Not to sound harsh, but why the hell would I bring a stranger on an aid mission half way around the world?

    -RE Tom Moore saying things about me:

    Some background – Ugh, this is the one that cuts deep for me and I hate to even have to talk about it. Tom and I had been friends for over a decade, we first met on a security contract in Qatar back in the day and immediately got along due to all the idiots on that contracts and our mutual love for the outdoors and adventurer history (we had one guy that was an Apache pilot/former SEAL/former chef for Air Force One and 20 former Delta guys! Yup, it was that sort of contract)

    After I left that that contract and went to Iraq we kept in touch and met up 6 years later when he stayed at my apartment in Bangkok for a month and again later he stayed with me for a while at my place in LA.

    The Tomahawk Scout Class – Later when I decided to get into training with DVM Tom and I talked about having his own class to monetize his casting on a new Wilderness Survival TV show.

    So I bought a bunch of HD camera equipment and stuff to film his course and flew out to Arizona for two weeks to film and develop it with in. The filming went well and the guys at DVM (at this point DVM had new partners and employees) went on to edit the video, edit his printed class material, and build an e-learning website over the next couple months until it went live – then we used Facebook ads to promote it.

    This was a 9K dollar investment on our part, but I did it cuz he was a buddy and throughout the time I have known him he has always been broke so I thought it would be nice passive income for him. Basically it was doing a solid for a bud and to see if people would be interested in online training.

    Part of the agreement we had was he would promote his course so DVM could eventually recoup its initial investment for developing his class and he would get a slice of every sale. We both thought that was fair and agreed on it.

    Well the only promoting he did was a cryptic post on his Facebook page saying he had an online class if people are interested and that’s about it.

    All of the guys at DVM were sort of pissed they put months of work and our money into developing the class and he seemed to be unconcerned with promoting it at all, in fact he was sort of annoyed whenever we asked him to. We sent Tom several lists of how he could promote it but he never did anything.

    While all this was going on he started arguing with the Discovery Chanel about his airtime and later resorted to talking bad about them, the show itself and some of his co-stars on Facebook and the show website. Later he was not asked to return to the show, probably a result of his very public behavior. And with him off the show there went the only thing that was promoting the course we spent our time and money on.

    I paid him his share in cash for sales of the course when we were hanging out in Cambodia, then by PayPal. But at the end we were getting one sign up a month if we were lucky, a complete loss in time and money for us.

    When I was in Iraq Kurdistan on the first Aid Mission he sent me an email asking for any payments that he had not gotten yet. We had not gotten any sign ups in a month so I knew it was 90 bucks we owed him.

    I sent him an email back saying I would PayPal him when I got to secure internet (no way I am accessing my online banking from Iraqi wifi) and that (ok, I was a bit of a dick here) “after you costing us 9k and then never bothering to promote the class then fucking up what you had with Discovery I am hardly in a hurry to send it to you but I will when I get to secure internet” (or something along those lines, can’t remember the exact words).

    Hey I was pissed at my old friend for letting me down, so I was a bit harsh with him, but he is a man so I figured he would take it in stride. We have said way worse to each other in the past and remanded friends.

    A day later I flew back to the US (two day flight) and when I got back I saw he was talking shit about me online. We sent a bunch of harsh emails to each other that ended with Tom saying forget about it I don’t want your fucking money. Considering we were 9k in the hole over the whole thing and being extremely upset that my friend would do this to me I just gave up on trying to reason with him and never emailed him again. We (DVM) shut his class down from the site and mailed out the tabs and Certs and just chalked the whole thing up as a loss.

    Two of the Certs and tabs were sent back to us cuz the address those folks used when they signed up were bad, so if you have not gotten your Tab shoot us an email here: james.price.dvm(at)gmail.com

    I somehow owe him thousands of dollars – nope, not true, a complete lie. Let me give you a bit of background on Tom and I and money. Tom is the buddy who never even looks at a check or tab when it comes to the table (we all have a bud like that right?), throughout our decade long friendship I have paid every time we have ever hung out or he has crashed with me, I have paid for and sent him pizzas when he was stranded and broke in airports on layovers a couple of times, paid for every bar tab, every time we have ever eaten out, paid for and brought him food back on the few occasions I went out without him when he was crashing with me and I paid for every bottle of booze when we would drink at my place.

    I am not saying this to brag, cuz I was always happy to pay, he was a bud that was always short on cash and I do ok with my bread so no biggie, never thought about it until now. Just giving you all some perspective about how Tom does not remember what friends have done for him in the past over a 10 year friendship.

    But I digress, back on subject. So this nonsense about me owing him thousands is a lie and crazy talk that he has never mentioned it to me cuz he knows it is not true. It is just something he is saying to his online followers to rile them up. For anyone who has been following this, he started off saying I owed him a hundred bucks and over the past couple of months it has slowly become “thousands”.

    I left him stranded in Cambodia – also a lie. When we first had the idea to do an adventure tour in Cambodia I thought people would jump on going there to hang out with like minded folks and do some adventuring and shoot a rocket launcher in the Cambodian jungle, a friggin rocket launcher son, who does not want to do that? And for a way cheap price.

    Well oddly, not so much it turns out…

    I ended up only getting 3 people who wanted to go. I told him we have to have at least 7 just to break even so I was going to cancel the trip and try to get more people to go next year. Tom said he was going to go to Cambodia anyway so I said I would go there alone and we can just hang out.

    Tom said if we are both going to be in Cambodia anyway (meaning the trip would not pay for our flights) then we should go ahead and just do the tour. I agreed but I said it would cost me thousands extra to pay for everything cuz we only had a few people going, but I was willing to cover it for now and recoup my money on the next one so we could build the brand of the tour and get more people to go next year.

    So we ran the tour for the three guys and I paid for Tom’s hotel, all meals, all bar tabs and gave him spare cash once. After the tour was over Tom and I hung out for a few days in Cambodia and the again in Thailand the next week. We had a hoot and left with a hug, handshake and a “see ya on the next adventure bro”.

    Now Tom is saying I abandoned him in Cambodia and I was supposed to buy him a flight home. Bullshit, not true at all, and he was in Thailand the last time I saw him so another lie.

    To wrap the Tom thing up – I do not know if it was the disappointment of getting cut by the TV show, shame that he has never had the money to buy a buddy lunch and has to rely on handouts, him being broke and essentially homeless now living in the backyard of buddy’s house combined with liquor fueled posts that has caused him to lash out against me like this.

    Tom and I have had a falling out before where we didn’t talk for a year. This was pre the existence of things like Facebook where he can have an audience to yap bad about people to when you are sauced up. But in the end we forgot about it and went back to being friends.

    Unfortunately that probably will not happen this time. But despite the hard words Tom and I have said to each other these past few months I am not angry at him at all, more sad that our friendship had to end over what is essentially butt hurt on his part.

    And if Tom wants to change his mind about the 90 bucks he has my email. If not I will stuff it in a strippers g-string in honor of our past friendship

    In Conclusion:

    Well that’s it folks, I am done, got nothing more to say to about what has been asked, but I am glad I was able to have my say cuz quite frankly some of the questions about me have needed to be addressed for some time now and I should have done this sooner. Anything I didn’t go over is cuz it fit into the anonymous internet ninja troll silliness that was not worth my time to painfully type out a response to on my iPad (yes, I wrote this all on a friggin iPad).

    But when it comes down to it, the Internet is a free for all environment where pretty much anything can be said. Like I said before “she said – he said”.

    But considering that I have met and worked with thousands of people over my life and I am flat out blunt when I talk to people, have a bit of a “I could care less about what human does or does not like me” and I am a braggart and a bit of a dick that is drunk 43% of the time and (from the looks of things here) about 15 people hate my guts when I thought it was in the hundreds means I am doing better than I thought in the big picture.

    Special thanks goes out to the folks here at BBC who have had to suffer through this clown show and to everyone who has and continues to support DVM and our Humanitarian Aid Missions. Stay classy baby.

    Well folks, thanks for your time, I bow out of the convo…

    ~James Ching Chong Wing Wong Fung Fu Grey Park Price, out.

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    • January 6, 2015 at 10:13 pm
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      Mr. Price,

      Your response, though loquacious, was incomplete.

      In particular you did not respond to:

      Did you or did you not work for a state department affiliate?

      (Yes or no)

      Did you or did you not get fired from said affiliate?

      (Yes or no)

      Did you or did you not have an asinine amount of stolen kit in your room that the employees of said affiliate found in your room when you got canned?

      (Yes or no)

      Did you or did you not show up at the SD Affiliate villa last month only to be escorted out by your neck by a rather large and heavily tattooed ex Marine?

      (Yes or no)

      Your silence on these questions feels suspicious.

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  • January 6, 2015 at 2:10 am
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    Standby, I am writing a response

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    • January 6, 2015 at 6:59 am
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      We’ve been standing by for 48 hours.

      We’re all ears.

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    • January 6, 2015 at 7:01 am
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      Must be a massive response to take so long to post…? (9 hours and counting)

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  • January 6, 2015 at 1:18 am
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    January 5, 2015 at 12:41 am

    Okay going to try this for a second time.

    James Price, of DVM, is the one who started the aforementioned KGKC, charging $100 a piece for membership. How do I know? I was one of those 100. Did he take said money and disappear for 6 months? Absolutely. I don’t know who this business partner is, nor was there any mention of him during this time

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  • January 5, 2015 at 10:08 pm
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    When I spoke of DVM I meant the original KGKC. My mistake.

    “Doc” up!

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  • January 5, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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    I was an original member of the DVM-KGKC. Im not interested in getting in a internet squabble, but I hear BBC has a good rep. So I would rather you hear the truth from someone who was a part of the original melee that went down.

    I was so hip on DVM at the time. I really dug the articles and podcasts. I bought the gear and I would post pics with a DVM Patch to represent at every defense contractor that I went to.

    I was a fan of the articles that “James Grey” put up and when the opportunity to become a part of the KGKC (Knives, Guns and Knucks Club) came up, I ponied up the cash and sent it in. Membership included some cool shit, like access to a private site where we could connect with like minded people as well as an ID Card and admittance to the HQ supposedly in Vegas.

    Bottom line it was all bullshit with the exception of the private site. Very few got what they were promised. What we got was excuses and bullshit. First, was that everything was shipping and he even posted pics of the ID cards. Nwxr the post office lost everything. Then, it was that he couldn’t get a hold of his partner Jay Grey (which was really another of his own profiles). Then, he was sending out the ID cards again (this is when I knew it was bullshit because they were the same cards with the faces blotted out for OPSEC for a group that was supposed to not have need for any OPSEC because were were all vetted). Then, his “partner” took off with all the money. Then, he was “in the shit” and couldn’t be responsive. If you were angry and a dick to him, you never got a refund.

    I was more level headed and I finally got my refund after about 6 months of going back and forth. My problem with the whole thing is that he claimed to be “An old school man” like Clint Eastwood in “Grand Tornio.” If he couldn’t pull off his vision, he should have come clean. I wouldn’t have even cared about the 60 bucks. But he didn’t. I held him to that “Old School Man” standard and he never lived up. Matter of fact, if you follow the timeline of his DVM posts, you can see he goes dark the entire time this all went down.

    I can pull up old message posts back and forth if you want more info. Again, Im not here to start an internet war, but you guys (BBC) are legit, so I want you to know the truth. Besides, I could not stand idly by and listen to people whom I call brother be berated when they are putting out the cold hard truth. The fact that James came on here and then attempted to pawn it off on his “Partner” who is really his alter ego, is quite insane.

    If anybody needs to man up and come clean, its James Price while you’re bullshittin.

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  • January 5, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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    Here’s my 2 cents YMMV

    I worked a contract at the same time as him

    But we did not meet as we were on different Shifts. We touched base as he was spinning up DVM back in 2010, we checked each other’s bona fides and exchanged greetings, knew some of the same people, worked some of the same gear. I ended up getting burned on his little dvm deal for a hundred bucks. Numerous emails were left ignored, PMs through the dvm blog as well. I sent a PM through fb that was similarly ignored.

    I figured it was a cheap price to find out what kind of person I was dealing with and as it was I was on DoS gig and didn’t care to pursue it. Lesson learned, and I figured I was just one who fell through the cracks, shit happens.

    I followed some of the dvm stuff and the training scams he pulled. I just laughed. No civilian, unsanctioned course is going to get you on a gig other than as cannon fodder with a shitty company. You are hired as a contractor based on your background (vetted by Uncle Sugar) and your experience, not by attending any course put on by other than a sanctioned training company teaching DoD or DoS curriculum and to DoD or DoS standards and only for contracts already won. I know this having been on several contracts myself and knowing the process you go through over and over. I have a small company and could easily do the same thing but just not my kind of deal taking people’s money for a promise. Kind of has a “casting couch” kinda feel to it, with pretty much the same outcome if you ask me.

    I eventually found a group of guys that had all got screwed in the same way I had. Lo and behold I was no longer just one guy that maybe slipped through the cracks I was part of a pretty substantial group of guys with some BTDTs and some BTSDT (been there still doing thats) all with a bone to pick JP. It was like homecoming week. All of those who have spoken above I can vouch for, all have been standup guys since I was accepted into the fold last year.

    I cannot speak on the other accusations as I had no part, but I believe those guys, and can verify my part with bank records, emails, and PMs.

    He’s a waste of time and I am sorry BBC has gotten involved with him.

    You have my email and I will happily provide anything you need. I’m just a phone call away. I’m pretty easy to find.

    I personally don’t care about the money as I said, it was a cheap lesson to learn what DVM was, but it is much bigger than the little bit I lost, I do this to possibly prevent other people from getting burned.

    “Doc” up!

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  • January 5, 2015 at 7:48 pm
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    BTW, big shout out to The boys at BBC for allowing us to use this platform in a manner that’s allowed this discussion to happen. I know there’s guys on both sides of this foaming at the mouth, you’re doing a bang-up job of moderating it and allowing the pertinent info to flow in a calm and collected and fair, manner. (Aside from my opening salvo of a barely intelligible rageahol fuelled rant thought the pain of tiny buttons under ape-like thumbs.

    Keep sticking to your guns, and no matter what side of the shitstorm you find yourself on, you’ll remain respected by both parties.

    Myself and other interested parties take no joy in airing this in your backyard, but sometimes we don’t choose where we fight. Like a Brother just stated elsewhere.. “Price isn’t going to be able to have his cake without one of us sticking our dick in it from now on”. There’s only so much standing back and watching good people eat that cake.

    Maybe more will think twice if there’s a giant dick-hole in the cake they’re being served.

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  • January 5, 2015 at 7:17 pm
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    The guys that have came forward, didn’t do so to try and gain anything, or bash BBC. They and I are actually fans, I’ve known a majority of them for a while now, and trust and respect their opinion, and know that they aren’t full of bluster or fabricating anything, they are simply trying to stop the ongoing theft of our fellow contractors, and prevent new guys from losing money on some made up BS school, that isn’t going to help them land a contract. This guy is worse than a used car salesman, he is passing off half-truths and whole lies and uses places like this to validate his record, regardless of how this goes, a simple screen shot and boom, BBC did an article about him, now give him some money article he will help you get a job. I don’t know if his fans are real or if it is just him making up shit to cover his tracks, either way, the guys that came forward are solid, Price, or whatever he goes by for the moment, is nothing more than a scam artist.

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  • January 5, 2015 at 7:01 pm
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    James,

    I find it funny that your small 5’5″ frame isn’t replying at all to any of this. You have made two comments this entire ordeal that you honestly brought on yourself. I also see that your friends and all 4 of the guys that went on these “missions” with you aren’t saying much either.

    Now that we are “facing DVM like a man”. . . . . you’re going to take your lashings and disappear.

    And let me put something out there. . . . it’s not us “facing DVM like a man” . . . we are facing you. Facing you like the men WE are. You are the issue, not the DBA, not the DVM logo, not the company. . . You and your shitty unethical business practices and overall shitty moral choices. Let me just point out that fact that you chose to put your fan base in front of you to defend you and for us to mow over just to get to you. I have the screen shot from your team room on FB asking for help.

    Really doesn’t sound like someone I would like to defend. . . You god damn coward.

    I love how you blamed your then “Business Partner” for the KGKC debacle where you owed thousands to the guys just to make sure you didnt get your ass beaten and quartered. They mere fact that you made up that you had a business partner named “Jay Grey” while you were using an alias “James Grey” at the same time was one of THEE DUMBEST things I have ever seen and heard of. A 4 year old could have figured that brain buster out and known that you made a false scapegoat to blame for something you did yourself.

    Here is the deal. You will make a formal apology to EVERYONE right here and right now and do it publicly. Admit your wrong doings. It’s not about the money anymore. . . it’s about your word and your actions. Do what’s right.

    If you remain silent, then we know you are total scum.

    If you respond with lies, then everyone will be informed as to who and what you are. It will ALL GO LIVE.

    If you tell the truth, then we can all walk away, call you an asshole and wash our hands of this. Never to be brought up again.

    Being a man is not about doing what you want, James. It’s about do the things we don’t want to. In your case. . . it’s telling the truth.

    We all look forward to your hasty reply.

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    • January 6, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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      Ok. This just made all the reading worthwhile:

      “Being a man is not about doing what you want, James. It’s about do the things we don’t want to.”

      Excellent

      (Just in case that sounds sarcastic, I really mean it.)

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  • January 5, 2015 at 5:56 pm
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    Dave Mc = David Bryan.

    I went to FB and rejoined the DVM Team Room (yes I was a member for a long time before I left because I was tired of the constant BS from Price). I went back to “face DVM like a man” as Price so eloquently put it, and rather than face me, or even call me out with his FB legion, he just unceremoniously blocked me from the group.

    So much for facing it like a Man.

    This guy has personally scammed me, and countless others. I only say countless because I don’t know everyone. I do know for a fact that after he was canned for the above mentioned shady dealings with a gracious employer, he burned 100 of us wholesale. Bad news for him, we’re still together to this day. Since that episode I’ve heard of, directly, over a dozen other occasions of Price’s business ethics. From stolen kit ( you still got my Brothers NV?), to screwing manufacturers and leaving them out of pocket after breaking purchase agreements, to charging people to play army with him. The guy with ZERO combat experience.

    You are a sham. You can’t even live up even to the false reputation that you’ve concocted for yourself. And after scamming REAL BTDT guys you quickly learned that your stories couldn’t hold up under scrutiny from that crowd, so now you’re being Mr. Nice Guy and helping those that would have no hope in getting into the game by providing them with bogus training and experience under the guise of being a good dude. We see through the schemes to line your own pockets and feed off the attention you receive from those that don’t have the background to call you out for what you are. You didn’t buy their loyalty, you actually managed to talk them into paying for it.

    I don’t see you here explaining these points or facts as have been delivered above, nor do I expect you to. From past experience I know you’ll brush it off, go dark and spend whatever remaining money they’ve given you in a Phillipene fishing village until it blows over and you can start again.

    But it won’t start again. We won’t let it. We’ve seen you prey off this community for long enough, and you’re crawling around in a world that’s too small to hide in any longer. Your story is out, our story is out.

    The karma train might not always be on time, but it always gets to its station.

    Dave Bryan

    Ball is in your court. If you’d like to chat this out, just say the word. I’ve got your number.

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    • January 5, 2015 at 6:13 pm
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      Well. Pretty hard to to dispute this individual is willing to stand behind the allegations. ^^^^

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      • January 5, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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        Agreed, quite curious to see the end results of this if I may say so.

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    • January 5, 2015 at 7:19 pm
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      Dave james price scammed me pretty good as well by using my name, reputation,likeness, and intellectual property to line his own pockets.I never received a dime. He left me stranded in Asia after the Cambodia tour. And went dark on the internet for several months. In addition I wrote an online scout course for DVM which I was never paid for either. The worst thing though is my own stupidity in letting him convert my travel blog which had 900+ posts about survival, history and adventure all over the world. James subsequently deleted all of my intellectual property on the site http://www.pathfindertom.com because he got mad when I asked him where my money was for all of the work. He could have simply fixed it by spending 30 seconds on paypal,no. Price chose to berate me and accuse me of numerous wrong doings as he dodge the bullet. So fuck him, DVM and those associated with this scum bag.

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      • January 5, 2015 at 8:08 pm
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        Good post Tom. Curious what his reply will be if any at all.

        So far he’s showing everyone that he’s a coward.

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      • January 6, 2015 at 6:42 am
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        Well said Tom. If I was used like that by some sort of asshat I’d be pissed too.

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      • January 8, 2015 at 9:15 am
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        Tom dont feel bad James had me accompany him for a week in Thailand only to split on me with out ever paying me. I think he was just mad because my ladyboy peepee is 4 times the size of his

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  • January 5, 2015 at 4:51 pm
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    A close friend of mine (Lester S) purchased the Cold Steel Voyager that James Price posted in the Facebook group some months ago. Time passed, no knife was received. My friend contacted James and tracking information was promised. That was the last he heard from Mr. Price. While not thousands of dollars this just hours to show more of his apparent character.

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  • January 5, 2015 at 2:59 pm
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    I am one of those 4 guys. As for timeframe, no worries. I’m on a midnight schedule in a GMT +3 timezone so your afternoon/evening is my morning

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  • January 5, 2015 at 1:59 pm
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    I work for a State Dept. affiliate doing logistical moves in N. Iraq

    (Kurdistan). A few years ago we had a hot fill slot that I offered to

    Price’s brother (solid operator). His brother turned it down but knew we needed a body ASAP and mentioned Mr. Price was doing some DynCorp gig in the UAE. Because he was the brother of a man we all knew and respected he got he slot. That was the ONLY reason he was brought on.

    He worked for us for a couple years doing convoy duty and it was during this time he started the DVM thing. All his posts about “his” trucks, “his” crew and “his” guns were the trucks, crews and guns my boss owned. Not James’ but the company’s assets.

    We tolerated his bullshit about everything being “his” for quite some time- but we’d get emails and other comms about kit that he had acquired belonging to someone else and them wanting their shit back, money owed etc. but since it didn’t concern us directly it was passed off as butthurt common to guys who have lost track of gear and to be honest I really didn’t care enough to look further into it.

    His back door dealings were ferreted out and his employment was terminated. We were tasked with documenting and cataloging his room in the villa. Part of what we found was a shit ton of kit belonging to other expats (we are talking THOUSANDS of dollars of shit), all kinds of personal property that wasn’t his(including that of his team members) as well as company property which to this day he is still trying to claim is his. Keep in mind this is despite other guys not only claiming it but putting serial numbers and other identifiers to the kit he stole. (Some dudes have gotten their shit back- others have unfortunately gotten shafted as their kit disappeared into the black hole that is this guy).

    The guy is flat out fucking shady and I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could toss him. He’s a thief, steals from expats on his own team (remember the Afghan commando patches there James?), jacks kit other guys are depending on, jacks up and rats on his own team and is overadisll a dishonorable and loyal individual.

    He never fired a single shot in anger and all his “operations” were in Kurdistan during the timeframe where the biggest threat was a drunken Kurd crossing the centerline of the road. He was intimating he was “out amongst em” on runs that we did carrying nothing more than a sidearm (and that because it was expected- not because we thought we’d have need of it).

    You guys bought into the “International Man of Mystery” Mr. Price has constructed around himself. He isn’t Archer, never was Archer and never will be Archer.

    James will know damn well what I am referring to in that last post by the way.

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    • January 5, 2015 at 2:14 pm
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      Whiskey Echo Foxtrot – nobody can be Archer but Archer! Thanks for weighing in, you may be one of the ones our guy contacts (you know, once we know who our guy is).

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      • January 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm
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        Mad Duo,

        I replied to an email sent from DR.

        No response.

        The man above is one of the 4 contacts I passed on.

        Solid intel with evidence to back it up.

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        • January 5, 2015 at 2:32 pm
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          You’ll get a response, he was on the phone most of the morning prepping an article for SHOT Show and then working on a piece we’re about to run from a former Rhodesian guy (AAR from an ambush during the Bush War). Probably be this evening sometime before you hear back.

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  • January 5, 2015 at 12:45 pm
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    So gents, enjoying the thread here. I have limited experience with Mr Price other than a shady online school that folks had to threaten him to do the right thing. I got what was promised but, to me, he’s a little shady. Unwilling to comment on his experience and it looks as though he has some. I’m thinking he is a skill level 5 with a skill level 10 aspirations. There are a few here I know and respect whose view of the gentleman I will take as gospel. Best of luck Sir.

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  • January 5, 2015 at 12:16 pm
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    Taylor M. 3 of the guys on the kurdistan “mission” had been on the dvm cambodia adventure tour last march.

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    • January 5, 2015 at 1:47 pm
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      I can personally verify that if you are referring to the men who worked Kurdistan for the past 5 years they have emphatically have NOT gone on the DVM adventure tour.

      The men working in Kurdistan, for the company James worked for prior to his termination for cause, have standing orders to roust him on sight and sure as hell wouldn’t pay thousands of dollars to go play in Cambodia

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      • January 5, 2015 at 6:13 pm
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        different guys dude.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 11:55 pm
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    James has no (competitors) he is in a class unto himself. You cant compete with such greatness. its a fact!

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    • January 5, 2015 at 12:15 am
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      Sycophant much? If you’re trying to intelligently post something on his behalf, i.e. a character reference, that’s not the way to go about it. If you’re one of those who hate him and you’re trolling, well played!

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  • January 4, 2015 at 10:37 pm
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    A few questions for James Price/Park/Grey/G.

    Did you or did you not work for a state department affiliate?

    Did you or did you not get fired from said affiliate?

    Did you or did you not have an asinine amount of stolen kit in your room that the employees of said affiliate found in your room when you got canned?

    Did you or did you not get fired from said affiliate for passing confidential info detrimental to both the client and the company to a local national competitor?

    Do you or don’t you owe Thomas D. Moore from the TV show “Dude you’re Screwed” up to and possibly more that the sum of $5,000 USD?

    Did you or did you not provide the Tomahawk Scouts tabs upon completion of the online cours?

    Did you or did you not show up at the SD Affiliate villa last month only to be escorted out by your neck by a rather large and heavily tattooed ex Marine?

    If everyone here has to be honest. . . so do your “fans” and so do you.

    So far the only ppl that have to come up with proof are the ones that that have a beef with you. None of the bogus names saying good things about you need to be vetted. . . which is weird.

    Your answers to these questions are solely based on weather the men that know the answers as well will step forward and tell the truth about you to BBC.

    BBC, Standby for James answers and once we get an answer you will be contacted by the men that had first hand knowledge and hands on with “James”.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 10:48 pm
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      Again, thanks for an articulate post taking accountability Aaron.

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      • January 4, 2015 at 11:01 pm
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        Mad Duo, no problem.

        Can you please provide a contact email so I can put you in direct contact with the other men that have dealt with “James”.

        The men I speak of are still active, so please understand that being anonymous is not an excuse for them. It is strictly PerSec and Opsec.

        Thanks.

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        • January 4, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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          Affirm – will have one of the guys contact you at the e-mail address you logged in with unless you otherwise instruct, but it may be tomorrow before they can reach out.

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          • January 4, 2015 at 11:19 pm
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            Non issue. Will be avail in the morning as well.

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      • January 6, 2015 at 9:57 pm
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        So let me just say one thing. I got my tab and a nice certificate for the Tomahawk School. Nice little thing to have for the course. I am guessing that Tom Tomahawk did not share in the profits? Yeah I think he did, because he was talking up the school even after I posted I had completed it. (Arron send me your mobile number I will text you a picture of the tab and the certificate)

        Second, if you ever have been around James or read any of his blog posts on DVM. He is critical of the shady backoffice side of contracting. Giving great advise… Such as keep a log of all the shady crap and of favors owed.

        Finally, Tomahawk has was fired from Dude your Screwed. The scuttle butt was a not getting along with others (His words not mine paraphrased) So is it REALLY a huge stretch to think he would not get along with someone with a Strong Personality? He shit talked the folks on Dude your Screwed as well.

        Finally, as I stated James has written about contracting, he has talked about the shitbags in the industry. So to see a few butt hurt BTDT guys pop off on this article is not a shock. Notice Aaron first 3 issues is how James makes money. Yes he does have adventure trips to Cambodia…. So WHAT one of the taglines of the DVM is “Adventures” if people want to pay for an adventure then that is up to them. I believe if you look at some of the pictures Thomas was there as well. 🙂 As far as promising contracting gigs….. The only thing I have ever seen was in jest (That means Jokingly Aaron) Sure people want to train. So does that make Costa, Haley, Proctor, Rogers or any other training school liars?? WTF?

        As far as being fired from a job…. Who the hell hasn’t been. Whether it was a reduction in force, layoff or firing. You talking about kit in a room??? Did the kit leave with him? Did not think so. If it did you suck at securing your gear.

        So a few butt hurt contractors are on here talking shit. SHOCKER. But lets put some names behind some of the ButtHurt shall we. This is all from OSINT, so should not get flagged.

        Thomas D. Moore – Put out a call to arms on his Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/thomas.d.moore.12 Look for the link to this article.

        Thomas D. Moore and Col. Tom Kiekbride commented on a fake facebook page called Mr. Chow. Using James’s likeness and that of others. Mr Chow (Who could that be!!) Posted some juvenile and racist remarks that are libel and hateful not only to James but to all of DVM and the students who’s picture were posted without release or permission.

        Finally, how bad does you life have to suck, to have nothing better to do with your time than to smear the comment section on a story about helping others. I guess it it not cool to the BTDT guys commenting unless you are getting paid to do it. SMH.

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    • January 6, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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      “So far the only ppl that have to come up with proof are the ones that that have a beef with you. None of the bogus names saying good things about you need to be vetted. . . which is weird.”

      Not really. No one cares what they say. None of them are responsive to claims against Mr. Price.

      “James is a really nice guy.” – I don’t care.

      “James never cheated me.” – Great, did he cheat someone else?

      On the flip side:

      “James is dishonorable.” – How? Give me examples. Give me evidence that those are not made up examples.

      You will be glad to hear (because I know how important my opinion is to you) that what you posted is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. This is the sort of thing that will lead to real answers.

      Thank you.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 10:28 pm
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    Who are these men making claims agains James Price? And why does the burden of proof fall on them? Why must an individual post his CV, or use his “real name” when making claims against a man (James Price), who is so obviously fond of using an alias?

    Who is James Price, but an individual making claims? What evidence of his claims was gathered by BBC, before BBC decided to interview James in regards to his so called efforts?

    I venture to guess that no such evidence had been gathered. All that exists is couple of photos of guys in Vests standing in a circle, and James, standing “somewhere unsafe”. Laughable, absolutely laughable.

    James Price and his venture was not vetted because the author didn’t feel that he had to, because anyone doing this sort of shit illegitimately, would have surely been found out. Well, he is being found out, here and now, and you are shitting on the people providing the information.

    so, why hadn’t James been found out sooner? He has, many circles, just not the circles that the author swims in. Why haven’t these same people made a ruckus about James, publicly, sooner? Well, mostly, because they aren’t the type.

    I wont tell you that it is on the account that they are “silent professionals” or anything as corny as one James Price would dare. But, because they are they type to not make a fuss, unless molested, and this article is utter molestation of the sensibilities of certain individuals who have been offended by James.

    These people don’t want to use their real names, lest they become the target of an undying group of fan boy who want to play contractor, with James, who has never held a “real” contracting gig in his life.

    If you want to prop up this fool, and if you want to repress claims and comments, based upon a lack of transparency, then I suggest you pull down this entire shit show/sham of an article, OR, let us say our piece.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 11:06 pm
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      It’s pretty simple why we ask for someone to take accountability – because anyone can sling shit or create a ruckus from behind a keyboard. This isn’t to insinuate you or anyone commenting might not be a legit professional, it’s just a fact. Look at it from our perspective. Great, lots of guys who “aren’t the type to make a fuss” have a case of the ass with him. Maybe that’s justified, maybe not. It’s just as easy to type what you just did as it is to make claims of operational experience or past wrongdoing. As of right now we have approximately the same amount of pro- and con- material from people from all over. If you can’t see the problems that creates, sorry, we can’t lay it out any more clearly. We’re not repressing fuck-all. We’re just trying not to post negative shit from anonymous people, “D”. You bring up a fair point about professionals not wanting to be the target of fan boys, we completely get that. At the same time, anyone: any. fucking. body. Anyone can post allegations. The reason this is still up, and why we’ve asked for transparency when saying your piece, is to legitimize it. If you have a better idea, we’re certainly open to hearing it. As for shitting on people sharing the information – how exactly are we doing that? Every accusation that his been made, wherein the author identified himself or made a cogent point, remains public, both pro- and con-. Are there some fan boys on here? Certainly sounds like some are (in fact it’s all but guaranteed). But if you think we’re trying to prop someone up, you’re sorely mistaken. We have no problem keeping our shit show open for all to participate even when people think we’re wrong or misguided or stupid, but if you think our stance on accountability means we’re somehow propping him up, you’re not only wrong you’re cordially invited to eat a dick. As we have said -REPEATEDLY – there could be truth to what detractors say. Maybe there’s not. There’s no way of knowing at the moment. What we DO know is, it’s easy to troll people online or on a forum or in a comment thread. In summary – if you have information or specific issues you can bring to light, or specific questions to ask, by all means do so. Either Price will be able to respond or he won’t, and that will help everyone out there judge. As for us performing due diligence, we were comfortable enough with what we knew to run the article. That remains true. We’re also comfortable admitting we’ve been wrong before and likely will be again. If we are, we’ll admit, but substantiating anonymous accusations (or an accusation from someone whose e-mail address is from one of Price’s competitors) is (as hopefully you would agree) pretty difficult. If you have a better idea, send ’em on, we’ll certainly take ’em. Sorry you think we’re a shit show. Thanks for taking the time to weigh in on what has turned out to be a hella contentious article.

      Edit: Note also that it’s just a little after Midnight EST and we will shortly not checking comments. Some won’t be approved until morning, that’s not repressing anything, we’ll just be in the rack.

      Edit 2: we went back and put something at the beginning urging people to read the comments to forestall concerns that people would read the article without knowing the points of contention.

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      • January 5, 2015 at 1:09 am
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        Mad Duo,

        I appreciate your putting my comment up, and even your firing back.

        I have followed DVM since its early very early days. I witnessed it grow from some kind of potential new hot shit, hub for contractors, into an organization that offered a PAID MEMBERSHIP consulting service for persons wanting to pursue a career in contracting. They even ran a contest for wannabe contractors once, where the winner, would be awarded a contract.

        That doesn’t sound remotely like a scam, to you, Mad Duo?

        Well, if you had been paying attention to DVM like I have, then you would know that DVM has offered classes for wannabe contractors. That DVM has offered adventure tourism packages. And that DVM has offered exclusive limited edition custom knives.

        Or, what you really should know is that DVM is SELLING pretty much everything.

        Mostly, I am disappointed that James has been allowed to dismiss, people who have showed up here, by blaming it on a previous business partner.

        I understand that a bit of transparency would be nice, from the claim makers, but what does it change about these individuals claims? It might, prevent a bit of trolling. But, who is going to protect the claimants, when the mutt fan boys of DVM come trolling back? Or, as James himself put it, “face DVM like a man”. LOL

        What value is any of this transparency, without evidence?

        For instance, what evidence does BBC have that the “humanitarian efforts” of DVM, aren’t in fact an extension of some kind of DVM adventure tourism package?

        Im not making an accusation there, just speculating.

        Personally, I am glad to see James face the music in this manner. Even if hearing James referred to as a “more debonair Bob Denard” made me throw up in my mouth.

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        • January 6, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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          “For instance, what evidence does BBC have that the “humanitarian efforts” of DVM, aren’t in fact an extension of some kind of DVM adventure tourism package?

          Im not making an accusation there, just speculating.”

          That is actually rhetorical sophism. Perhaps you didn’t mean it that way but what you wrote is asking if BBC have evidence of a negative. You can’t prove a negative.

          The question is whether they ignored evidence that Mr. Price’s work may in fact be adventure tourism.

          Some folks are just trying to get the idea out (and that may be you) but other folks think this junior high debate crap is making a real point.

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    • January 5, 2015 at 4:13 am
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      1) Burden of proof falls on those making the claims because anyone can say anything. With nothing to back it up with (facts, figures, any type of hard evidence), it’s just talk and I for one have a hard time taking a person’s word at face value, especially if I don’t know them.

      2)Posting using your name and/or c.v lends to a person’s credibility via transparency and credentials. Using your name furthermore just shows that you’re not some anonymous troll and someone to be taken slightly more serious. As for your credentials, it helps with taking your word on the claims being made, especially when lacking hard evidence of said claims.

      So in short, trantransparency, proof verifying your claims (which just generally is accepted to be on the person making the claims…) and potentially having the credentials, especially when lacking said evidence will get you a lot further and with more seriousness than some anonymous online person with an axe to grind and nothing to back it up with.

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      • January 5, 2015 at 4:13 am
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        Note to self. In short my ass.. sorry about that.

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      • January 5, 2015 at 7:38 pm
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        I know how the burden of proof works bro. But, it is more complicated than that, here, isnt it?

        It would be complicated, at least in this format to provide any significant “evidence”…. Just saying

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        • January 6, 2015 at 2:47 am
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          Granted the evidence aspect is hard to produce in a situation like this, I absolutely agree with you which is why the names are so important here.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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    I think a summary is called for.

    James Price may indeed be a bad person but, with one exception, every claim that he is bad has been made anonymously and each claim has been nothing more than an assertion (e.g. He lies, he scams, etc.).

    The one exception (the gentleman who did not get his $75 back) shows what happens when a specific claim is made. Mr. Price responded with details about that situation.

    I was expecting more. I guess this is the Internet and this weird junior-high-girls-gossiping-in-the-bathroom thing that has happened here is just par for the course, but I’m still disappointed. I had hoped folks who seem so incensed by dishonor would have the sand to speak specifically and explicitly to the point.

    The only thing that is clear is Mr. Price pisses some people off.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 9:50 pm
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      I’d love to post specific details that’d put this guy to bed once and for all, believe me I would. But the fact remains that many of these people have their own interests to protect, and I can’t post someone else’s account against their wishes or without their permission. Some companies don’t want to be seen airing grievances on the Internet, however warranted.

      I’ve done what I could and have brought attention to it. I hope more people add to this. But if every time he pops his head up, he knows we’re watching then maybe that’s a day someone doesn’t get conned. And I’m happy with that result. Even if it does offend the sensibilities of the people on FB he begged to come here and defend him.

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      • January 4, 2015 at 11:08 pm
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        That’s a fair point Dave Mc, but unfortunately doesn’t solve the problem. In any case you’ve definitely brought attention to it! Note also that it’s just a little after Midnight EST and we will shortly not checking comments. Some won’t be approved until morning, that’s not repressing anything, we’ll just be in the rack.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 10:07 pm
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      I attended a DVM class last year with James as the primary instructor. The class was very well done with James showing exceptional knowege on the subject covered. As far as I can tell by my interactions with him he is kind of a dick. This must be why we got along so well. I look forward to attending DVM classes in the future.

      To James I would say, if you have no enemies you never stood for anything.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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    James is a really cool dude, and amazing person. I met him in Bangkok a while back. We partied like rockstars. Hes the kind of guy who will not let you reach in to your pocket.He paid for everything. All i remember was waking up with piles of lady boys and James was like passed out with a fleshlight, and a 1911 under a pile of naked lady boys. Party on JAMES! Go DVM!

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  • January 4, 2015 at 8:02 pm
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    The people in the South Brazil support James Price and DVM missions. Tocalopau!!!

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  • January 4, 2015 at 7:41 pm
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    James Price has been on the “sht bag radar” of a great many people in the know, for far too long. Its sad that the BBC has now come along publicly flattering this notorious prankster/con-artist and thereby lending cred to an individual with none, save for an unsavory past.

    On that note, I fear that people will read the article, and not see the comments, thereby gaining a view into the controversy that this little critter, James Price, has been the cause of.

    What I know of his sht baggery and what I can speak to first hand, are two different things. So, I will speak to the first hand matter, exclusively.

    I am a knife maker, a knife maker that was at one point approached by James in regards to producing a custom DVM fixed blade knife. I examined the DVM website and came to the conclusion that it seemed a bit too… circus oriented for my taste, so I balked at the “opportunity”.

    Shortly there after, an associate of mine was posting (DVM) links, including a progress report of sorts, in regards to his development of, a DVM fixed blade knife.

    The reports then seemed to fizzzle, and fade away.

    At some point I asked this fellow knife maker, what ever happened with the DVM knife project, and he shared with me a variety of unsavory details with me. These included James, stiffing him on the cost of the prototypes, hanging individuals who had placed pre-orders out to dry, without refunding them, and having VERY ANGRY customers contact him directly, demanding a product that he had never been paid for.

    Whats worse is this knife maker is a Veteran and an ABSOLUTELY stand up guy.

    Some time later, and… holy sht, I came across another knife maker, whom I knew exclusively via Facebook, talking about knives he was making for DVM. I didn’t know him personally, but knife making is a very small world, so, I reached out to the guy.

    Low and behold, he ends up spilling a crazy story on me, that echoed the former. He was made to sit on water jet cut blanks and G10 handle materials (a rather substantial investment) for almost two years, on the account of having not been paid. Ended up finally running into James (who, according to this knife maker, almost shit his pants upon being recognized and confronted) who proceeded to make promises of payment/compensation.

    Six months later, James showed up with a fraction of the funds for only a fraction of the orders that were said to exist, and the knife maker was forced to fulfill them, but only for the sake of recouping his losses.

    As far as no enemies, no accomplishments goes… What would you expect of a con atrist? I would expect no less than a LONG list of enemies, and a short list FAKE ones.

    From my personal observations, I can tell you that James/DVM was once (perhaps still is) selling adventure tourism. I am reading this article about DVM HAST, and I can’t help but thinking it is much the same thing…

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  • January 4, 2015 at 7:32 pm
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    So much hate for a good man. I can attest to his character. I am getting out of the military, he has been offering me guidance on contracting. He has asked for nothing. He offered to help me get set up with a letter of recommendation. Still he asked for nothing. My name is Frank. I stand with James Price.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 7:29 pm
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    Ive known James for years. Since 2010 or so when i stumbled across OSM. Hes a stand up guy and ill back him up. I have donated small amounts and it went to a good cause. Do me and Mr. Price agree on every thing? No. But like i said, hes a stand up guy. Haters ganna hate. If you cant put a real name, being a mall ninja just makes you look like a fool. Grow up, find a job, get laid and get a life

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  • January 4, 2015 at 7:21 pm
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    The people in the Philippines support James Price and DVM missions. Mabuhay!

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  • January 4, 2015 at 7:12 pm
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    But in all seriousness James should not be held accountable for the actions of his previous business associate. He has already stated that if he hasn’t refunded people who got screwed that he will gladly do so presently. So the haters and trolls need to give it a rest. Semper

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  • January 4, 2015 at 7:04 pm
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    I like turtles………. Yuuuuut!

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  • January 4, 2015 at 6:37 pm
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    FYI, the guys who went on James Park’s “mission” had to take a couple of his “courses” first, for the privilege….

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      • January 4, 2015 at 6:59 pm
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        It only makes sense to know what someone is capable of before you would trust your safety to them. Why would you go to some torn apart region of the world with someone that might not be stable or has no skills? Kinda late to find out once your are there. Not an issue.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 7:10 pm
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      No one had to take a class first, half the people on the missions never took a class from me or DVM

      And my name is “Price” not “Park” – another example you people have the wrong information or you are making shit up

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      • January 4, 2015 at 7:42 pm
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        You also go by James Grey, James G, as well as Park and Price.

        Also, regarding reference to paying to play – there was a post in one of the DVM groups stating that ONLY those who had taken your “courses” would be on the list to be on “the team”.

        I have since been banned from the DVM group because of my post stating my issues with you, and so I am unable to post “proof” of this. If someone who still has access to this group is able to post an UNEDITED version, it would be appreciated

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        • January 5, 2015 at 7:56 am
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          Mad Duo,

          This also validates my previous comment about James Price being an actual name.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 7:20 pm
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      Taylor M – as we said before, if you’re going to levy allegations, you’ll need to do it with accountability. If you’re going to make accusations without using your name (as in first and last name) and why/how you have issues with him/them, we will (regretfully) not approve the comment. Hopefully you’ll understand why we do so – we reckon if it’s important enough to make public declarations about, it’s important enough to do so in a forthright manner, by name, without anonymity or ambiguity. We have no issues at all approving your comments if you do so with first and last name. Right now from the front end it just shows up as “Taylor M”. Thanks. The Mad Duo

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      • January 5, 2015 at 7:57 am
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        Why should these guys validate who they are, when Mr. Price/Park?Grey/G doesnt have to validate who he is?

        Maybe ask why the original site was hacked and how OUR information ended up in Cambodia?

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        • January 5, 2015 at 8:21 am
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          Sorry… Not Cambodia… Phillipines

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        • January 5, 2015 at 1:26 pm
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          @Vyktor King -as has been said (several times), we’re asking if someone has an issue to take accountability by name rather than make anonymous accusations. No one is asking for CVs or resumes, childhood pictures or a copy of their food handler’s permit. We’re pretty sure the burden of proof has always been the responsibility of the accuser. We are taking steps to have someone look further into this stuff and will eventually report what we find (might take some doing, since half our staff is prepping for or will be at SHOT, so we can’t tell you exactly when). As for the ‘hacking’ question, you appear to be referencing some inside baseball. You’ll have to be more clear since we have no idea what the hell you’re talking about there (which could mean a lot or nothing).

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  • January 4, 2015 at 5:54 pm
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    La Cima World Missions and James are out there taking risk and trying to help make a difference. I have and will continue to donate to this cause. We the shit gets deep they don’t give up and sit on the beach.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 6:28 pm
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      Keep on supporting La Cima, good on ya. Just make sure you send your money directly to them, and not through James Park…

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  • January 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm
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    I’m part of the same group of guys as Mike Rohan, Dave McC and Tomahawk that got scammed by James Park. They are either BTDT or still doing it and their word is G2G.

    All of the people who posted in support of James “Price” only have mentioned more recent experiences with him – as in since ours…and seem to be more of the fanboy variety (appologies to those who don’t fally into this category).

    We keep on seeing this character pop up with some new money-grabbing scheme every few months – just about as long as it would take to burn off a few grand in a Thai lady-boy house; and we are concerned that more of our colleagues and brothers will get taken advantage of by his nonsense.

    This is the reason for the negative posts on our part.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 6:44 pm
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      Post your proof tend your real name bro

      No?

      I didn’t think so

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      • January 4, 2015 at 7:56 pm
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        I did post my name.

        Don’t call me “bro”. You lack honor and are no brother of mine

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        • January 4, 2015 at 8:14 pm
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          In fairness Taylor M, “Taylor M” isn’t really posting your name. Though any name posted could be fake, we admit. We’re speaking specifically like, “My name is John Smith from Company X, and James Price did me wrong in the this way.”

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          • January 5, 2015 at 7:53 am
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            Realistically, based on your comment alone, James Price doesnt even need to be a real name…

            I have had conversations with Mr. Price regarding a previous business venture. I can understand that ventures come and go, however, if Im expected to believe that he will give me MY money back after all these years, then I must be as naive as a child.

            After being privy to a scam of his and seeing multiple others, where do you think the money that will reimburse me will come from? Not Mr. Price… that is the hard earned cash from another trigger puller that is trying to get into this industry.

            You can have my cash, sir. However, I refuse to allow you to build up and crush the dreams of someone that is dying to get into contracting. Charging someone to fluff their CV? Come on. There are hundreds of us that would help these guys write it out and get it right. I have seen him advertise to POSSIBLY take guys on a “gig”, only to follow up with a send me money and Ill see what I can do.

            Mr. Price has built DVM on the backs of the real warriors. He has used many of us to get to where he is. Now, please dont take this as a bashing of Mr. Price; this is a warning to all that have considered dealings with him. If you think he has YOUR interests in mind, he does not.

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            • January 5, 2015 at 1:28 pm
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              @Vyktory King – we’re aware “James Price” doesn’t have to be a real name, just as we’re aware almost everyone on this thread are operating with pseudonyms. We have to start somewhere, though, and until we implement a comment registration form (which we’ve considered, but would be a pain in the ass) this is about all we can do (and is better, in our eyes, than nothing).

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  • January 4, 2015 at 4:47 pm
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    Re your response Mad Duo, I respect your position. Just be careful with how much weight you give this guy with your name behind it. This was more of a call to arms’, and it’s getting the right attention now. I am sure that others will chime in and finish off where I left off.

    You know this environment, I’m free & clear of it and the drama that it carries. I’m not interested in dragging that back home. You guys do good work, don’t let his BS muddy that reputation.

    Out.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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      Mc,

      Are you serious? I don’t know James. Half the time I think he’s cool and the other half I think he’s a dick. I don’t care what he turns out to be. However, your response above is inadequate after claiming the following about “James Price”

      He lies

      He scams

      He is predatory

      That his information given in the interview above is BS

      He screws real warfighters.

      You wrapped it up with the following:

      “Due diligence in information accuracy is required.”

      It is.

      You owe it to “our community” to substantiate these claims.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 6:23 pm
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      Dave Mc – thanks for the concern (no shit, not being smarmy or smart-ass) we just have to do our best to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to possibly spurious allegations. We appreciate your call to arms.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 6:39 pm
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      Dave what is your real name?

      Stop with this keyboard mall ninja stuff and face DVM like a man

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  • January 4, 2015 at 4:38 pm
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    ALCON – the original poster making the negative statements has commented again, but he refuses to identify himself. He advises:

    -“James”, knows who I am that’s what matters.-

    In light of his unwillingness to stand publicly behind his statements we will no longer be approving them (unless he changes his mind). His comments are articulate, we have no issue there, but so long as they remain anonymous they will remain unseen. We have no issue with a debate or clearing the air, but it’s hard to credit any negative accusations so long as the person making them wishes to remain anonymous. This is not some “fan boy defense” of DVM or anyone else, it’s common fucking sense. If you think it’s important enough to say, own it. Otherwise, quit slinging shit.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 4:37 pm
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    James Price a fake? Stolen valor? Bwhahahaahahahaha, bwhahahahahaha. Effing hell he is. I guess the mission I went on to Iraq with Price was all fake too? I don’t even know why I am bothering with the guy who made the comments about Price but I feel I have to respond when someone is falsely accused and when I know good and damn effing well better. If it wasn’t for Price I would not have been on that Humanitarian Aid Mission to Iraq. If it wasn’t for Price running it with perfectly executed efficiency we would not have been able to help the people we helped. And believe me we did help those people. If it wasn’t for Price even if I had gone without his support I would not have known the first thing about doing a damn thing for any of those people. He ran that mission like a Pro. There was nothing and I mean nothing amateur about how he ran that mission and that only and I emphasize only comes from experience running missions. There is no way under God’s blue sky that the mission would have run that efficiently and smoothly or even have taken place without James Price. The proof is in the outcome and in the mission we did. The comments by whomever this clown is are so laughable and beyond comprehensible truth that they have got to be dismissed. As for Stolen Valor…the only people that can steal “valor” are those that act like they were in the Military but were not. James Price has never contended he was ever in the Military.

    David Hale

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    • January 4, 2015 at 4:40 pm
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      Thank you David Hale for owning your statement and be willing to publicly take a stand. It certainly lends credence to what you have to say.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 4:24 pm
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    How exactly has he screwed anyone over? Can you cite verifiable sources? Not second or third person, but the actual person or persons.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 4:03 pm
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    James is a standup guy and a true warrior that helps better the world. I imagine the Dave MC fella is likely someone that tried to jump on one of James’ trips and got denied.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 4:00 pm
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    I’ve known James for 5 years now. He was an early adopter of our gear, as a retail customer, and become a valued field tester for us. Over the past years we have become more involved with his organization, DVM, and had the honor to support thier aid mission to the Philippines, and more recently coupled with Le-Cima to the ME. Quality people. We support them and their vision to help the lesser fortunate.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 4:13 pm
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      Thanks Rob for saying “This is who I am and this is why we support DVM.” We wish many of of those who haunt our comment section would be so forthright (whether we agree with them or not). Also, sidebar, the Gryphon pack is TITS. Sometimes we cover ourselves in baby oil and roll around inside it. Fucking sensuous AND field worthy. (Mad Duo)

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:54 pm
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    James Price is doing something everyone with skills and combat experience should be doing and that is trying to help out people in hell holes where no one else dares to go. To be a warrior is not just shooting enemies and bathing in glory. A warrior is someone who fights the good fight and James and his boys are doing that, its real easy to act all tough and self righteous at home, behind a computer screen but its way harder to act tough and righteous surrounded by poor kids in shitty situations asking you for help. Great interview! Awesome page! Keep it up

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:53 pm
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    Ha, this guy and his two buddy’s again, so strange to have a man as a stalker but here we go.

    I guess he thinks I took the photos of the DVM team in Kurdistan At the same place they faked the moon landing pictures – shit I am in Kurdistan as I type this

    And this mission was conducted under a 501(c) (3) so by law all the receipts from donations are turned in to the IRS

    Look, your life may suck and you hate that others people are doing interesting things, but don’t be a hater, no one likes that guy

    James “Has Crazy Male Stalkers” Price

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    • January 5, 2015 at 12:16 am
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      Now you’re somebody! I’m still trying to create some haters. Admit it, James. This is all a ruse. You’re posing as your own psycho male haters/stalkers to look cool.

      In all seriousness. These guys need to put up or shut up. You’ve answered the vague allegations with specifics. These clowns need to go cry to there mammas.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:50 pm
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    James Price and DVM are the real deal. This guy literally deserves his own action figure, complete with Cambodian liquor, trio of bar floozies, and an AK. I’ve been following his very well documented work for about three years now and never before have a seen an individual that’s more motivated to help those who truly need it. The fact that he’s a collector of weapons, consumer of liquor, and pilferer of snatch is just icing on the cake. I would take any nay-sayers remarks with a big grain of salt.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:46 pm
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    Good article, proof that just a few people or just one can make a difference in peoples lives. You dont need alot of money just a will to do it.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:45 pm
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    yup, James price AKA Jame park. is a lying rip off artist with no real operational experience. He has scammed people all over the world to include myself.He is guilty of stolen valor, and He likes to try to make himself look like a humanitarian, but in reality he is a self centered a-hole who likes to rip off honest folks.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 6:14 pm
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      If you wanted to be helpful you would cite particulars.

      Assertions are worthless. Without substantiation you are just some guy on the internet.

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      • January 5, 2015 at 8:19 pm
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        I dont need to cite particulars to satisfy anyone. I know the truth.

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    • January 5, 2015 at 1:03 pm
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      Tomahwak, it’s clear that nothing you or anyone else is going to change the authors opinion about James Price / Park / Gray. The BTDT guys know the difference and the real world truth about this ass-clown. Kinda like the Rolling Stones article about campus rape at UVA, no checking of facts, no independent verification of details, just plain sloppy writing. I don’t know the author, but he will not admit he got taken by a scamster of epic proportion. He owes Tomahawk big money, yet still has him listed on his gloryhole website. Will Prick Price answer the questions about be escorted off a contracting job and the amount of company kit in his room…. I doubt he will. This ass-clown has had his 15 minutes. I understand he is PNG from direct DoS contracting gigs… What’s the story there??? BBC a you have been sold a load of goods.. No I won’t upload my CV or detail my experience, because he’s not worth the trouble. Let me ask you BBC, when was the last piece you wrote that had this much controversy about the primary focus of the article? Prick Price says its a legitimate 501 (c) 3 and it may well be, but overseas, how much dough ray me ends up in soft pockets. He isn’t doing it for his love of humanity, it’s all photo shoots, glad handing, pocket lining, and t-shirt collecting. You may respond, but I for one am not going to be checking back. The truth is out there, I’m not a stalker, this guy is just scamming good well-meaning people. AMF Prick Price

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      • January 5, 2015 at 1:22 pm
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        TomK18C – we’re still posting the comments for all to see and we’re talking to a couple of guys behind the scenes to validate the allegations, just as we’re talking to guys who advise they can and will confirm Price’s side of the story, and we’re working to engage someone to do further research – so, uh, what else exactly do you want us to do? We’re not posting a Mea Culpa unless we know we’re guilty. We had sufficient confirmation and validation to write it in the first place (so we did). Would you prefer we just take it offline with nothing prepared to replace it? How would that look? Not good. It’s clear that many of you are firmly entrenched in your position and hey – good on ya, especially if you’re justified. If you expect us to drop everything without further work and research about things that have come to light (for us, mind you, if not the anti-DVM “BTDT guys”) since it was published then you will be disappointed. It’s unfortunate you equate this to a Rolling Stones article (ye gods) or that you think it was sloppy writing (it wasn’t, and the author is a squared away man), but you’re entitled to your opinion (and we had sufficient cause to merit the interview that we’re not going to rethink it now). In the end, we’re gonna leave this thing up so people can try to educate others as to their side of the truth as they see it and we’re not going to apologize for it. We’ve also reached out to some of the BTDT guys we know to see what. If we find out we were scammed, we’ll admit to it, try to fix it and move on with pride and motivation. If we find out we we weren’t, we’ll happily tell the unnecessarily vitriolic haters (vs. the ones who contacted us in a professional concern) to choke on a bag a dicks. Feel free to suggest additional measures we can take beyond those we’ve initiated. Also, for the record, no one asked anyone to load CVs or any such nonsense. We said (quite reasonably) that if you’re going to levy allegations of wrongdoing or fuckery, you should do so by name and with some detail about that specific event (repeated in more than one comment). Let’s don’t blow this out of proportion – if you would like us to believe you are rational, surely you can understand the difference between a pointed accusation by an individual vs. an anonymous comment. Thanks for weighing in.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:44 pm
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    In the 2010-2011 James Price charged roughly 100 people $75 per person to join a forum and group of like minded individuals. This forum was called the DVM Knife, Gun and Knuckles club. The group was promised a ID card, certificate and other trinkets. Several months went by without contact from James before excuses were made and fingers pointed to his associate as the problem with distribution. When a refund was requested comms were silent for another few months. Less than 10 received refunds.

    This comment isn’t about bashing aiding our Kurd brothers or what La Cima is doing but it is about looking closely into some of James Prices online endeavors. Hopefully others will step forward and bring to light the equipment and cash James has taken from them. I hope that he had turned his business around and that no one else loses hard earned money as I have.

    (Typed on phone, please bear with the grammar)

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    • January 4, 2015 at 4:11 pm
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      Thank you Mike Rohan for stating your case intelligently, without vitriol, and for owning up to it by name. We wish many of of those who haunt our comment section would be so forthright (whether we agree with them or not). The Mad Duo

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    • January 4, 2015 at 4:15 pm
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      Sigh, this nonsense again

      Yeah my former partner started that club and then dropped the ball with mailing out the memberships

      I was on missions in Iraq and had no internet, when I found out what happened I refunded everyone who wanted out plus 5 bucks for the PayPal fee. I also publicly ousted that guy for fucking up to the point he had to change his name his rep was so fucked

      I them posted on Facebook and the website if anyone has outstanding orders to let me know and I refunded all those also except for a couple of people who refused to give me their PayPal cuz they were angry or something

      So no one was ripped off just feelings hurt

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      • January 4, 2015 at 4:50 pm
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        Thank you for your response. I appreciate the up front answer about what went down. I was one of those at the time who left out of anger and didn’t see the call for refund. I do not need it nor would like it this many years later. I only brought my personal experience to the table as I had felt wronged at the time and had seen the call for legitimate claims. Continue to do good work downrange as in the end that’s what matters.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:43 pm
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    Dave Mc,

    What due diligence are you referring to? Links to any “due diligence” that you have would be nice, not just accusations…

    I’m not a huge fan of RECOIL but I’ve heard only good things about James Price, DART, and DVM.. if you have anything of fact I would be more than willing to listen.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 3:37 pm
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    Dave,

    Perhaps you should provide evidence of your claims, burden of proof is on you. Otherwise it’s just baseless B.S.

    I’m not saying this to attack you but in regards to all fairness towards everyone.

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  • January 4, 2015 at 2:24 pm
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    “James Price” is a lying, scanning piece of shot that preys off our community. You’ve been fed a line of BS and not only believed it, you’re writing about it so this clown can carry on screwing real warfighters.

    Due diligence in information accuracy is required.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 2:46 pm
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      Dave Mc – as we just told someone who called and intelligently, non-profanely expressed a similar opinion/concern, we are here to present information. What you’re saying may be true. However, it may well be not. “Show me someone with no enemies and we’ll show you someone with no accomplishments.” So, if all you’re going to do is spew vitriol and allegations, don’t bother. If you would like to explain your position intelligently without insulting us we’ll be more than happy to approve future comments in order to allow for a genuine debate about an issue that COULD be true. We have performed due diligence and for each of you that is anti-DVM there are one or more who defend it. Lots of trolls out there, so unless you’re willing to say, “This is who I am and this is what I think or know,” just like you would in real life as opposed to behind a keyboard, then we won’t be allowing the comments. This isn’t to accuse you of being full of shit – you may not be, but we just don’t know, do we? Feel free to opine in an articulate fashion in order to keep “this clown” from “screwing real warfighters” or keep it to yourself please. If you have legitimate concerns that aren’t baseless, here’s your chance to air the grievance and warn others off. If, alternatively, you’re a shitbag who just has an axe to grind, it will spare everyone your fuckery. We’re all about a realistic dialogue carried on WITH ACCOUNTABILITY as an effort to reach the truth. Sincerely, the Mad Duo and the Breach-Bang-Clear team.

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      • January 4, 2015 at 4:05 pm
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        That was the classiest “put up or shut up” I have had the pleasure to read in a long time.

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      • January 6, 2015 at 9:01 am
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        What name for james price should I put up and all the sheets upon sheets of facts should I as well.. He is a scammer and this is very true. “James” we know..

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    • January 4, 2015 at 3:40 pm
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      I know folks who have been done right and done wrong (or so they say, I am in no position to say definitively what happened between them) by James and DVM. I can say that you’re probably accomplishing more by putting your effort behind whatever cause you wish than by attacking a group that is attempting to do exactly that.

      Different goals, different methods, different reputations, but at least there are people in this world doing things outside of the rather poorly-run government sector.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 3:52 pm
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      Dave, please upload your CV or resume so someone can vet your professional accomplishments to see if you’re a liar and a scammer. And, by the way, if you don’t have a humanitarian element on your resume, badmouthing someone who’s actually trying to make a difference is about as smart as wiping your ass before you shit.

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    • January 4, 2015 at 5:21 pm
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      I’ve been to a class hosted by Mr. Price and DVM, and had a great time. The class was as outlined, and the training was excellent. There are very few people doing what he is doing for the Kurds, and I respect that. Overall, I’ve been pleased with what interactions I’ve had with him and DVM.

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