Video: Tactical Response – Small Unit Tactics

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James Yeager’s Tactical Response recently published a couple of videos on “High Risk Contractor” tactics; these two are from the TR Small Unit Tactics classes. They’re largely composed of video shot by FX Hummel‘s tiny but multi-talented Jordan Winkler, intermixed with a Q&A wherein Winkler asks questions of James Yeager. So before you start laying down the hate and discontent, at least watch the videos. Do us a solid and keep the fact that it’s a training event in context (the students obviously aren’t going to perform as well as, say, dudes from The Unit). This isn’t to say you can’t be harsh or candid in your critique or analysis, or that you can’t disagree with their TTPs (disagreement is how learning occurs), or that you can’t be critical of TR if you’re one of those folks who have a case of the ass with them (it certainly won’t be the first time anyone has suffered apoplexy because of James Yeager). Just stay on point and remember that not everyone reading your comments will have your background. By the same token of course, sound off with what you like or agree with if there’s something you like or agree with (again, remembering not everyone will have your background, so try to be as academic as possible).

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As for whether civilians need to attend this sort of training at all (other than those whose PMSC employment might demand it), we’ll preempt that with the following:  1) ‘Merica. Who doesn’t want to do cool shit? Taking a ‘NASCAR class’ and driving really fucking fast in circles all day might not apply to your day to day driving but it’s a good time. 2) ‘Merica. Why do you care if they train like this, so long as it doesn’t supersede or replace more pertinent day to day fundamentals?

Grunts: supersede.

Now – if you’re doing a Walter Mitty and attending one of these as an armed citizen concealed carrier without first working on your basics with someone like Matt Jacques, Matt Graham, Greg Gorillafritz or Chuck Haggard (or for that matter James Yeager) and then another from Kerry Davis or Caleb Causey or someone similar – well, just go ahead and throat punch yourself now and save us the trouble.

(We’d also be interested in your thoughts on that.)

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So – what do you think? Any insight, pro or con? Any real world urban experiences you could pass along?

Stay tuned; next week we’ll be providing workout tips and gym insight for Jordan. He clearly needs help with his arms, poor anorexic bastard.

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20 thoughts on “Video: Tactical Response – Small Unit Tactics

  • May 8, 2015 at 2:36 pm
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    GUYS, DO NOT mistake this for professional training! This is BoyScout level 1 stuff from, to and for weekend wannabees almost exclusively! Team BBC ought not lend too much credibility to such schemes. WRONG basics are worse than NO basics.

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  • April 21, 2015 at 3:56 pm
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    First off, i’m no frogman and am far from an expert but here are my 5 cents:

    1) guys reloading on their knees? (1:39, 1st video ) why dont they just lay down when they reload and present a smaller target ?

    2) all that #operator gear but no dump pouches. that is the single most overlooked part od the gear? what idiot leaves their mags behind?

    3) so much flagging…

    4) did nobody tell them to keep their distance? it’s not exactly healthy to lay down exactly next to your BB, there should be at least 5m spacing

    5) transitions from prone to standing/moving position are far from flawles or correct

    6) (just because i can) all that tough guy operator as fuck army gear but no PT belts ? 😉

    PS: if nothing else, the video gave me a few laughs.

    PPS: you guys (breachbangclar crew)

    are awsome. awsome enaugh to pop up on our European radars. keep up the brilliant work

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  • April 20, 2015 at 3:32 pm
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    I agree with most of the comments, but I will point out that most people drawn to Yeager won’t pay money to learn the basics, because they (Kruger-Dunning effect) already believe they know all the basics from watching YouTube and playing Call of Duty.

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    • May 8, 2015 at 2:28 pm
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      HAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!! YESSIRREEE…..I REST MY CASE.

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  • April 20, 2015 at 7:36 am
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    Thanks for the mention brother, I appreciate it.

    Ref adventure training, to steal a quote from that great tactical philosopher Southnarc “If you can’t keep the average dude from raping you in the shower then the last fucking thing you need is a carbine class”.

    I know a lot of people who have taken classes like this who can’t freakin shoot, especially with a handgun. That seems to have one’s priorities completely out of whack.

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  • April 16, 2015 at 12:30 pm
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    This was god awful. This was worse than a Basic train FTX. Their weapons manipulation was terrible. I guarantee you the amount of rounds they put downrange was to compensate for shitty shot placement not to suppress a paper E-type. I was screaming ENDEX at my screen the whole video. There were no signs of any commuication for control the rates of fire and the dude on the AWS Shrike (belt-fed AR) looked like he was trying to screw a platypus when he was reloading the weapon. This was to say the least by any conventional military training standard a catastrophic failure. But its totally cool they look OAF.

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  • April 15, 2015 at 5:11 pm
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    A few thoughts for improvement: Unless that group of people have made a methodical progression with measures of performance and effectiveness to a specific set of standards together, and I mean together. Start much smaller. Individual skills training with measured performance will eliminate many of the small things that make for headaches. Master the basics, move to the buddy team. Master the drill with buddy team, establish a baseline for communication, and rehearse actions. Induce stress until it becomes second nature…..Then and only then combine buddy teams and do it again with four man teams. Select a leader, assign positions. Make it second nature. Then move on to the size of the group seen here. Somebody drops out of the group or a new member is added, move back to the basics and run it again. I would take a trained and proficient 2-3 man team over a hodge podge posse / militia any day.

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  • April 15, 2015 at 9:40 am
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    Oh us poor brainwashed bastards…I too used to get caught up in chastising those who didn’t retain their mags and left them on the deck. Since I have been retrained to know better. Worrying about retaining mags will get you shot and/or killed. So I can’t find fault there. The rest of the video…looks like tacticool guy day camp to me.

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  • April 15, 2015 at 2:39 am
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    I see a lot of bad mistakes being made that end up getting people killed all for the sake of what exactly. I understand the basics of what he is trying to do, but how did the dry fire runs go? Speed vs Security or finding a spot to create a base of fire? Not looking around, just hopping up when guys are shooting that close. Sorry that made me do a double take.

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  • April 14, 2015 at 11:36 pm
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    He can’t even describe Whack-a-mole well.

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  • April 14, 2015 at 9:57 pm
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    Stop it. Seriously, just stop, please. The people that get hired to this type of work are people who have been properly trained to do this. If you are a civilian (which these people PAINFULLY are), leave your office job and join the military if you want ‘training’ that badly. If you are military and go to these guys for training: you are not a shooter, and you should not be listening to them.

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  • April 14, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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    Mag Retention, sectors of fire. Dispersion?

    The belt fed m4 was cute. Was there any direction or communication from team leaders or a squad leader? Couldn’t identify anyone other than the instructors taking charge.

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  • April 14, 2015 at 7:47 pm
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    I agree. Mag retention was deplorable. If this was real world you need to have mags to reload at some point if resupply is an option. Also on the initial video on the bounding, they should have been organized in and moved in teams, not individuals. There was a lot of room for catastrophic errors there. Made me cringe alot. Flagging and also poor fire dicipline. Granted they are not professionals but they are being taught supposed by some and therefore these aspects should have been covered.

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  • April 14, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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    Thanks! great stuff!!

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  • April 14, 2015 at 6:22 pm
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    I think there one of the beast classes I have taken over the years I first went there in 05 and have been a number of times since I have learned lots made friends and I believe the training to be relevant.

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  • April 14, 2015 at 5:30 pm
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    1. Mag retention. They are wearing every other piece of cool guy gear in the world, but why don’t they have dump pouches? Too many mags on the ground.

    2 Teach them how to properly wear their gear. There is a difference between looking “cool” vs what works. Props for having the nuts to train in gear, but realize that not every single thing you own needs to be worn. Also- the guy who had the belt fed M4….. that is why machine gunners in the military are experts at what they do. They are pros at identifying and mitigating those types of problems that they may face in combat. There really is nothing cool about your belt fed going down because you don’t know how to use it. That gets people killed in real life. If you aren’t trained to using MG’s, become a master at your M4/AR15.

    3. Flagging- MULTIPLE times these people were crossing into each other’s fields of fire. I understand they may not have a military background, but this is a huge safety issue.

    4. Suppression and movement. Very easy ROC drill can be done to teach a civilian about moving when there is suppression. What is the training value out of running, shooting, running, shooting some more? If you truly want to “outgun” your enemy, they need to learn the intricacies of effective suppression, teamwork, communication etc. Once they have grasped the concept, then they can start to develop good habits and move on from there.

    People tend to forget or skip the basics of simple buddy rushes. Take baby steps with it. Once you get good at buddy rushes, then go into the fireteam rushes, then on to squad level, etc. Based on the video it seemed like they jumped straight into squad level bounds and then australian peels. A lot of work goes into making those effective and safe, your average joe cannot jump into that without practice just because he saw a few movies.

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    • April 14, 2015 at 6:28 pm
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      C,

      I have unfortunately given Yeager money for a class. Didn’t really learn anything new but did shoot a lot of ammo needlessly. Yeager does not think mag pouches are valid and warfighters don’t use them. He is wrong of course but that answers your first observation.

      The biggest take away from Yeager is that he caters to computer geeks and non mil folks in my opinion. He is a great salesman and has a big following. I would rather learn from fellow mil guys that BTDT. No hate just a thought. He can do whatever he wants too and make money at it. I do not care to listen to his advice as most of the time it is regurgitated or morphed into his product. He is a master at developing solutions to already solved problems or made up problems.

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    • April 14, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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      I agree with everything you said.

      I’d like to add to your thoughts on suppression; is it really necessary for the guys at the front of the peel to fire so quickly/sporadically after they’ve “supressed” the bad guys? I think that starting even smaller, learning to control your rate of fire and communicte with your buddies so you don’t blow through your mags without having effectively broken contact, would do them good too.

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    • May 7, 2015 at 5:41 pm
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      You REALLY want to go to Yeager and TR as Subject Matter Experts??? GIVE ME A FUKKIN BREAK!

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